What Makes the Miller Effect a Timeless Phenomenon in Electrical Engineering?

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The discussion centers around the Miller Effect in electrical engineering, exploring its historical significance and relevance in modern circuit design. Participants reflect on the analytical methods used in early literature and the evolution of educational approaches in the field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Historical
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares a link to an old paper on the Miller Effect, expressing admiration for its analytical methods and suggesting a discussion on the topic.
  • Another participant reflects on the historical context of early electrical engineering, mentioning the challenges faced by pioneers and the lack of modern techniques in their work.
  • Some participants note the wordiness of older papers but acknowledge their value for understanding the deeper implications of the Miller Effect.
  • There is a recognition that the Miller Effect is crucial for the use of cascode configurations in circuit design.
  • Participants express concern that younger engineers may not appreciate the historical foundations of their field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the significance of the Miller Effect and the historical context of early electrical engineering. However, there is no consensus on the effectiveness of older versus modern educational materials.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions touch on the limitations of modern explanations compared to historical texts, but no specific assumptions or definitions are resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the historical development of electrical engineering, the Miller Effect, and the evolution of circuit design principles may find this discussion valuable.

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http://www.mit.edu/~klund/papers/jmiller.pdf

The Miller Effect has always intrigued me. This ancient paper analyzing the phenomenon shows some incredibly lucid analytic methods...something I think is missing from a lot of modern electrical engineers.
I'd like to have some discussion on this.

Enjoy!
Eric
 
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Wow ! Now i can't wait to dig out my 1920 Signal Corps radio manual !

Those old books show how the pioneers struggled to dig out and explain how things work. They make me appreciate how much the educators have streamlined those explanations.
Like you i marvel at the tenacity of those early guys. Spark gap radios weren't far in the past. My old Signal Corps book describes generating RF carrier with multipole rotating alternators !

Not a Laplace transform in that whole paper. Of course control theory hadn't yet been modernized by the German rocket scientists...

Thanks - i think i'll print myself a copy of that one.

old jim
 
Those old paper are fun to look at but my were authors wordy back then. If the goal is to have an interesting discussion on the deep meaning of the Miller effect it is good. If the goal is to design circuits that work, Kent's one-page introduction is more effective.

Miller effect is intriguing you're right. Without the Miller effect, no one would use a cascode!
 
analogdesign said:
Those old paper are fun to look at but my were authors wordy back then. If the goal is to have an interesting discussion on the deep meaning of the Miller effect it is good. If the goal is to design circuits that work, Kent's one-page introduction is more effective.

Miller effect is intriguing you're right. Without the Miller effect, no one would use a cascode!
The thing that is so impressive is that folks of this era had no coattails upon which to ride. Very few young whippersnappers realize what pioneers these were!
 
KL7AJ said:
The thing that is so impressive is that folks of this era had no coattails upon which to ride. Very few young whippersnappers realize what pioneers these were!

Quite true. Very few young designers are even aware of the history of our field and it's a shame.
 

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