What material can block a magnet's pull between two magnets?

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The discussion centers on the effectiveness of materials in blocking or redirecting magnetic fields between two magnets. High permeability metals, particularly mu-metal, are identified as the best options for redirecting magnetic fields, preventing them from emerging on the far side when placed between magnets. The conversation also touches on superconductors, which repel magnetic fields entirely due to the Meissner effect. Participants highlight that no material can completely block magnetic fields; they can only redirect them, which is crucial for applications like hard drive shielding and magnetic motor designs.

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Many of you have done this in your past. Two magnets, one under a table, another on top of the table, and moving the one under will cause the one on top to move.

Is there a material that, given the same thickness, will block this magnetic pull/repelling between the two magnets?

Thanks.
 
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Perhaps a more appropriate term instead of "blocking" is "re-direction"
 
So, this mu metal isn't something that magnets will attach to then. It talks about hard drives. Which part of a hard drive is this mu metal?
 
Magnets don't attach to anything that isn't magnetic (ie not iron, cobalt, nickel)
What mu-metal (and other high P materials) do is to trap and guide magnetic field lines.

It is probably used to shield the arm stepper motor from the disk surface and read head.
 
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So, this mu metal isn't something that magnets will attach to then. It talks about hard drives. Which part of a hard drive is this mu metal?

They'll attach to it quite nicely, but (assuming the mu metal is thick enough for the magnet) little of the field will emerge from the far side, it will mostly remain inside the mu metal.

Superconductors might be more what you're thinking of. They actually do the opposite, excluding magnetic fields from their interior and repelling magnets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect
 
What I would like to find is a material [material A] that a magnet [magnet A] would not be attracted to and a magnet [magnet B], on the other side of a certain thickness [no more than a cm] of this material A, would not attract or repell magnet A.
 
OrionVTOL said:
What I would like to find is a material [material A] that a magnet [magnet A] would not be attracted to and a magnet [magnet B], on the other side of a certain thickness [no more than a cm] of this material A, would not attract or repell magnet A.

The FAA has strict rules for the shipping of magnets on commercial carriers. Companies all know the have to package them with alternating polarity to cancel out the fields. pallidin is correct, there is really no material that "blocks" the fields, only redirects them.

People have been searching for such a material in their desire to produce a 'motor' using only magnets without introducing an outside energy source.
 
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