What math courses to take as an undergrad in physics planning for grad school

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The discussion revolves around the selection of mathematics courses for undergraduate physics students who are planning to pursue graduate studies. Participants explore various math classes that could be beneficial, considering their applications in different areas of physics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions that their college requires courses in Calculus I, II, III, Differential Equations, and Applied Linear Algebra, and seeks additional math course recommendations.
  • Another participant suggests taking physics electives alongside math courses.
  • Some participants argue that the choice of math courses should depend on the specific area of physics one intends to pursue, highlighting the importance of group theory for theoretical physics.
  • It is noted that General Relativity (GR) utilizes Differential Geometry, and a strong background in this area could enhance understanding of GR, although prerequisites like Analysis may be required.
  • Participants emphasize the significance of Differential Equations and Linear Algebra in physics, suggesting that deeper understanding through junior-level courses may be beneficial.
  • One participant questions whether taking Abstract Linear Algebra would be helpful in addition to the required Applied Linear Algebra course.
  • Another participant points out that Abstract Algebra courses may not be particularly useful for physicists as they often do not cover representation theory.
  • One participant suggests that basic statistics could be useful for those leaning towards experimental physics or engineering careers.
  • A participant shares their experience with a graduate course on Applied Partial Differential Equations, emphasizing its utility across various fields of physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on which math courses are most beneficial, indicating that there is no consensus on a definitive set of courses to take. Different areas of physics may require different mathematical foundations, leading to competing views on the importance of specific subjects.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the relevance of certain math courses may depend on the specific focus within physics, and prerequisites for advanced courses may limit options. There is also uncertainty regarding the applicability of Abstract Algebra in physics contexts.

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Since I got credit in calc I and II before going to college (along with getting many of my geneds out of the way), I'm going to have a lot of room for extra math courses.

What's required by my college's physics program is
Calc I, II, III
Diff eq
Applied Linear Algebra

After, that I'm on my own for picking math classes, but I'm not entirely sure which one's to take. My advisor suggested Applied Complex Variables and Intro to Abstract Algebra (for group theory). However, I still have a lot of room for more classes. Any ideas?
 
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Take physics electives.
 
I'll be doing that as well, but what about math classes that have applications in physics?
 
elg0rillo said:
I'll be doing that as well, but what about math classes that have applications in physics?

Depends really on the area of physics you intend to go in. If you want to do VERY VERY theoretical physics, you will probably want to have some familiarity with group theory, so an abstract algebra course could help.

Gen Rel uses a lot of Differential Geometry and while you will certainly learn 'SOME' D.Geo in any GR class you take as an undergrad/grad, it can certainly help your understanding of GR if your Diff Geo is very good going in. a lot of differential geometry courses though have Analysis as a pre-req, so you might have to take those

All of physics makes heavy use of differential equations and linear algebra: wave equations, eigenvalue/vector problems...etc. You will probably learn enough to get through an undergrad physics major taking the required amounts of each (which is probably just sophomore level classes in both). But again, the deeper you go into theoretical side of the things, if you have a firm understanding of how and why the math work, the better you will be at absorbing the physics. So junior level courses in L.A. and ODEs/PDEs might be in order.

Of course, this might all be overkill. I am also biased since i am a math and physics double major and I want to go into Mathematical Physics :)
 
Thanks for the suggestions!

But one question, my school has two higher level linear algebra courses, Abstract and Applied linear algebra. The applied linear algebra is required for my major. So I'll be taking that no matter what. So given that I'll be taking applied linear algebra, do you think abstract linear algebra would be helpful to supplement my applied linear algebra?
 
hitmeoff said:
Depends really on the area of physics you intend to go in. If you want to do VERY VERY theoretical physics, you will probably want to have some familiarity with group theory, so an abstract algebra course could help.

Abstract algebra courses aren't that helpful as they tend not to cover any representation theory, which is mostly what physicists are concerned with.
 
i would say if you go more experimental or even end up getting an engineering job basic stats will come in handy.
 
From personal experience, I took a graduate course on Applied Partial Differential Equations mostly using Fourier Analysis. Its extremely useful to take at least one course on advanced partial differential equations, just because you will encounter them in almost every field of physics.
 
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