What mistake am I making when calculating work done by a force?

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The discussion centers around calculating work done by a force represented by the equation F=-2x over the interval [-1,1]. The confusion arises from the interpretation of areas above and below the x-axis, leading to an initial assumption that the work done is negative. However, it is clarified that the work done is determined by the displacement and the force direction, resulting in equal areas that cancel each other out, yielding a total work of zero. The key takeaway is that displacement refers to the change in position rather than the position itself. Understanding this distinction resolves the confusion regarding the calculation of work done.
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Homework Statement
Draw the graph of ##F=-2x## and calculate the work done from ##[-1,1]##
Relevant Equations
Work = area under the graph
The answer key is zero because the areas are above and below x-axis and have equal magnitude so canceling out each other.

But I am confused about the solution
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Area 1 is above x-axis but I think the work done is negative since the sign of ##F## and ##x## is opposite. Work done on area 2 is also negative for the same reasoning so my answer would be -2 J

Where is my mistake? Thanks
 
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songoku said:
Homework Statement:: Draw the graph of ##F=-2x## and calculate the work done from ##[-1,1]##
Relevant Equations:: Work = area under the graph

The answer key is zero because the areas are above and below x-axis and have equal magnitude so canceling out each other.

But I am confused about the solution
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Area 1 is above x-axis but I think the work done is negative since the sign of ##F## and ##x## is opposite. Work done on area 2 is also negative for the same reasoning so my answer would be -2 J

Where is my mistake? Thanks
Ask yourself, "What is the definition of Work?"
 
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SammyS said:
Ask yourself, "What is the definition of Work?"
Work is the product of displacement and force which is parallel to the displacement

So based on that definition, I think when the force is positive and displacement is negative, the work done will be negative.

Thanks
 
songoku said:
Work is the product of displacement and force which is parallel to the displacement

So based on that definition, I think when the force is positive and displacement is negative, the work done will be negative.

Thanks
Right. Looks like you've got it.

So, in going from ##x=-1## to ##x=0##, for instance, the displacement is positive, even though ##x## is negative.
 
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For a non constant force the work in going from1 to 2 is $$work=\int _1^2 F(x) \,
dx$$ The increment dx is positive in the +x direction. So the net result result
$$work=\int _{x=-1}^{x=+1} F(x) \,
dx=0$$
is zero
 
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SammyS said:
Right. Looks like you've got it.

So, in going from ##x=-1## to ##x=0##, for instance, the displacement is positive, even though ##x## is negative.
Ah I see, so one work is indeed positive (area 1) and the other one is negative (area 2) so the total is zero.

Thank you very much SammyS and hutchphd
 
Put simply: Displacement is the change in x, not x itself.
 
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