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What? No Star Wars review yet?

  1. May 19, 2005 #1
    I wasn't going to see this for a few weeks but was REALLY bored at work and there's a theater down the street. Go figure...

    If you liked the original Star Wars, even if you hated 1 & 2 (like I did!) SEE this one. It is dark and violent. There is no stupid Jar Jar kind of humor device, in fact you will rarely laugh watching this. It ties up perfectly between the old and new SW movies. I think the ONLY reason this didn't get a rating of R is simply because most of the violence is aimed toward droids, no blood is shown, etc. Other wise the violence in this movie push it much closer to R

    Anyway, see it - on the big screen if you can. Remember this is coming from someone who disliked Ep1, hated Ep2 and was going to wait at least a month to see this.
     
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  3. May 19, 2005 #2

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    Nice to hear somebody likes it.

    To give us a better idea of what kind of movie you like, can you give a brief description of why you hated episodes 1 and 2? Lack of plot? Lack of action? Stupid plot? Too much time spent on insignificant events (1 hour pod race)?
    Do you like movies that are driven by characters, action, or plot?
     
  4. May 19, 2005 #3
    I went to an early morning showing- no way I was waiting in line for hours. But I guess star wars folks aren't morning people, because the imax was half empty. Anyhow, on to the show...

    Basically it was a really good movie. One of the best if not THE best of the series. The last two were horrible, but this one really shines through. The first half hour is excellent, the middle is bleh, and the end is action packed. I'd recommend it. The battle scenes were spectacular, the duels were breathtaking, and the CG was very realistic. With that said, this movie suffers from horrible dialogue. George can make yoda do amazing things, but the dialogue was extremely weak. The love scenes are roll your eyes corny. And Christensen can't sell it for the life of him. Mcgregor is probably the best thing in this. The way the plot is scripted for Vader's his turn to the dark side is kind of clunky, but maybe that's because I didn't even buy that he was in love. However the way everything ties into the series is flawless. The one thing I hated was the reason padme dies. It was pretty lame.

    Overall I'd say 3.5/5 stars- the action really is the saving grace
     
  5. May 19, 2005 #4

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    I SO don't want to see this movie, the fact that it is violent and action packed convinces me even more :devil:
     
  6. May 19, 2005 #5
    I'm going to see it next Tueday :biggrin:

    I loved the original ones, I wasn't too enthousiastic about Episode I, but I liked Episode II very much. I can't see what anyone could have against it...
     
  7. May 19, 2005 #6
    Where to start with why I didn't like 1 and 2 very much. Need I mention Jar Jar Binks? :rolleyes: A factor of things I guess when all rolled together. I need to give Ep2 a break because of the CG and fighting scenes. In all fariness I should clarify that I didn't hate Ep2, was just disappointed in it. I have both on DVD anyway like a good consumer. I think I'll use your wording of too much time spent on insignicant events. The plot was OK, the plot delivery was horrible. Admittedly in Ep3 the dialogue was better. My ONE gripe with p3 is that the grown up Christian Haydenson reminds me so much of Ashton Kutcher, at times I was almost expecting that stupid grin of his!

    I prefer Action movies to be driven by action - they don't need to make much sense but if they do its a plus. Comedies need to be driven by characters and events. Dramas and epics (like Star Wars & Lord of the Rings) need to be driven by plot & characters. I suspect that some of my greivances with ep1 & ep2 fall in line with that - when a lot of your main characters are not real actors. In this one there is a LOT of CG but you will find that almost all main characters are real actors this time.

    Oh and for the record General Grevious is freaking cool!
     
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  8. May 19, 2005 #7

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    I am a bit tired of all these star wars movies or any movie that has a plot around fighting a war. I rather spend my money on independent movies, the other week I watched Bin-Jip.. something original.
     
  9. May 19, 2005 #8
    Could you follow the plot of this one without having seen I & II? I saw the original Star Wars back in the 70s when they first came out, but had kinda outgrown my enthusiasm by the time Ep I was made. Since I heard bad things I never bothered. I might see this one on your sayso if you think I could follow the plot.
     
  10. May 19, 2005 #9
    You wouldn't know who the characters were if you don't know about Ep 1 & 2. Granted it could still be an entertaining action flick but you'd get lost simply by not knowing who people are, where they fit in the story, etc. I realize that 1 & 2 (especially 1) were slow stories in that they had to build character backgrounds where as Ep 4, 5 & 6 just throw you into a movie where you don't know the characters but Lucas developed them throughout.

    BTW - I am not a huge Star Wars fan but I AM a huge movie fan...
     
  11. May 19, 2005 #10

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    Thanks for the explanation. I'll be sure to see episode 3 :biggrin:
     
  12. May 19, 2005 #11

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    Several critics have said you don't really need Ep1&Ep2 to follow Ep3.
    Here's a list of the characters you may not be familiar with:
    Chancellor Palpatine (Palpy among non-existent friends)-The only relatively intelligent person in the series, the future Galactic Emperor
    Anakin Skywalker-Dumb guy who doesn't understand he's being duped by Palpy
    Obi-Wan Kenobi-Dumb guy who doesn't understand he's being duped by Palpy
    Mace Windu-Not so dumb guy who hazily begins to understand he's being duped by Palpy
    Yoda-Senile green thing who doesn't understand he's being duped by Palpy
    Padme Amidala-woman who manages to break up the homo-erotic bonding between Anakin and Obi-Wan, only to see him rush into the arms of..(guess who)
     
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  13. May 19, 2005 #12
    Same here. If a movie is good (well made) I will generally enjoy it whether or not I'm into the fad from which it springs.
     
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  14. May 19, 2005 #13

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    Homo-erotic bonding?!?!? Blasphemy!
     
  15. May 19, 2005 #14

    arildno

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    Well, they frolick just as much in space together as hobbits frolick in the Shire..
     
  16. May 19, 2005 #15

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    Hobbits are homo-erotic too?!?!?
     
  17. May 19, 2005 #16

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    They sure are:

    "OH, SAM! I'm glad you're with me, here at the end of all things.."
     
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  18. May 19, 2005 #17
    I know what you mean. The real trouble with many films like Star Wars, though, is less that they're about war, than that they are about war in order to have an excuse for more and more spectacular special effects. Many, many critics predicted that films were going to become special effects showcases, and it has come true. The plot smells of having been written to accomodate the effects.
     
  19. May 19, 2005 #18

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    Well, the word "epic" is getting rather nauseating..
    (I'm going to see Star Wars, though..)
     
  20. May 19, 2005 #19
    You could always look at this one as the internal struggle inside of Anakin. I know that sounds cheesy but after all that's what this one is about... well that and lots of special effects destruction!
     
  21. May 19, 2005 #20

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    From what I've seen, Ian McDiarmid is just great (and scary!) as Palpatine; would you agree to that after having seen the movie?
     
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