What Push Off Speed is Necessary for Divers to Safely Land 5m from a Cliff?

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The problem involves a diver jumping off a cliff of 35 meters and aiming to land 5 meters away from the base. Participants are exploring the necessary push-off speed for the diver to achieve this distance while considering the effects of gravity on the vertical motion.

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of the diver's jump, questioning whether the initial velocity is purely horizontal and the implications of the final velocity upon hitting the water. There is an exploration of time to fall and how to separate horizontal and vertical components of motion.

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The discussion is active, with participants attempting to calculate the time of fall and the corresponding horizontal speed. Some have provided calculations and hints, while others are correcting earlier assumptions and calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the final answer, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the calculations of time and initial velocities, with some participants re-evaluating their earlier results. The problem constraints include the height of the cliff and the required landing distance.

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Homework Statement


Divers jump off a cliff, at a height of 35m above sealevel. To land safely, they aim for 5m from the base of the cliff. What push off speed is neccesary?

Sy= -35m
Sx= 5
ay= -9.8m/s/s
Vi = ?

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Not sure how to proceed, if Vfy = 0 at the end of the motion,
then vf^2 = vi^2 + 2a(s)

The Attempt at a Solution



Adds up to vi = 0, unless I really screwed up my math.
 
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Are you assuming that their initial velocity is purely horizontal?

Surely the final velocity (on hitting the water) is not zero!

Hint: How long does it take the diver to hit the water?
 
Yes, does that then change initial velocity to 0?
Well that can't be right, at the point they jump off its 0,
so then I can just figure out the time with
Sy = vi(t) + 1/2 (a)(t)^2
Which equals 0.84s.
I don't understand how I'd continue with that.
 
cire792 said:
Yes, does that then change initial velocity to 0?
Well that can't be right, at the point they jump off its 0,
Treat the horizontal and vertical components of motion separately. The vertical component of the initial velocity is zero. Use that to find the time of fall.
so then I can just figure out the time with
Sy = vi(t) + 1/2 (a)(t)^2
OK.
Which equals 0.84s.
Show how you got that result.
I don't understand how I'd continue with that.
Once you correctly figure out the travel time, you can use it to figure out the horizontal speed.
 
Sy = vi(t) + 1/2 (a)(t)^2
-35 = 0(t) + (-4.9) (t)^2
t = 0.84s

And because x is uniform,
v=s/t
v=5/0.84
v=5.95m/s

So, that would be the X-component.
But since it's horizontal at the start,
Vi = 5.95m/s [E]
So problem solved.
Thanks a lot!
 
cire792 said:
Sy = vi(t) + 1/2 (a)(t)^2
-35 = 0(t) + (-4.9) (t)^2
t = 0.84s
Redo this calculation.
 
Ahh!
t = 2.6
Well that makes more sense.
Don't know how I messed that up before. ~_~
oh, vi = 13.46
 

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