What requires more bainpower? Professional writing vs advanced mathematics

In summary: Writing and talking is among the easiest things you can do! What is hard however is to find something which is worth writing or talking about and then properly represent the subject via the medium. With that maths is just another version of talking or writing, it is a way to communicate ideas to other individuals. Just like writing or talking what is hard is not actually doing maths but to find something which is worth spreading around the world and then get it down on paper correctly using accepted notation.
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elfboy
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Writing requires greater intellectual capabilities than advanced math because there are no rules with the exception grammar and spelling whereas with math it's more about repetition. Having an essay published in the New Yorker, for example, requires more brainpower than fully grasping general relativity.

Adjusting for outside variables such as socioeconomic status and age Vocabulary is regarded as the best best predictor of IQ.
 
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elfboy said:
Writing requires greater intellectual capabilities than advanced math because there are no rules with the exception grammar and spelling whereas with math it's more about repetition. Having an essay published in the New Yorker, for example, requires more brainpower than fully grasping general relativity.

Adjusting for outside variables such as socioeconomic status and age Vocabulary is regarded as the best best predictor of IQ.

Pulling theories out of thin air?

How much math have you had?
 
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Advanced maths there are no rules? Even in simple maths there are rules, to make the easiest example possible; never divide by zero.

There are rules after rules after rules, you don't get to pick and choose in almost all cases. A level maths and further maths it's just about possible to say there are ways of repetitively learning things.

And if you wish to make comparisons between writing and math at advanced level, you'd have to up the standard to the example you have used a new yorker article. It's like having to solve fermats last theorem in a day. I know which I'd prefer and find much much much simpler.

And vocabulary is actually about repitition, thus why it's never been used as a form of Intelligence testing. The reasoning,understanding and proper use of grammar is not particularly difficult for anyone as soon as its explained a couple of times.
 
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elfboy said:
Having an essay published in the New Yorker, for example, requires more brainpower than fully grasping general relativity.

Have you done both? If not, how can you compare?

While everyone can have an opinion, one would hope that people would put some work on it before putting it up for display.
 
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Far too broad of a generalization to be made in choosing on or the other.
 
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trebe said:
Advanced maths there are no rules? Even in simple maths there are rules, to make the easiest example possible; never divide by zero.

He/she didn't say that. They said writing has no rules apart from grammar and spelling.

It's one of the silliest questions I've read in a while! I would say learning to put a hat on is more difficult than both...
 
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elfboy said:
Writing requires greater intellectual capabilities than advanced math because there are no rules with the exception grammar and spelling whereas with math it's more about repetition. Having an essay published in the New Yorker, for example, requires more brainpower than fully grasping general relativity.

Adjusting for outside variables such as socioeconomic status and age Vocabulary is regarded as the best best predictor of IQ.

I congratulate you on your satire. A stupid answer is the perfect response to a stupid question.
 
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I majored in math because I thought it was easier than any other subject.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
I majored in math because I thought it was easier than any other subject.

:rofl: When my parents told me to carefully choose my educational path, I obviously chose the easiest. It came down to either Mathematics or science, I chose both.
 
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Define "brainpower".
 
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I'd rather he define the word he spelt in the title, "bainpower".
 
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Mentallic said:
I'd rather he define the word he spelt in the title, "bainpower".

Well, he doesn't think writing has many rules, so he takes this poetic license.

Still, he does possesses "bane-power" himself, so maybe it's a Freudian slip.
 
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Ahhh... Nuts.
 
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Take it easy on the spelling. I just heard writing is the hardest thing in the world to do
 
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elfboy said:
Adjusting for outside variables such as socioeconomic status and age Vocabulary is regarded as the best best predictor of IQ.
Because words is something everyone comes in daily contact with while things like advanced maths is highly dependent on your background. Writing and talking is among the easiest things you can do! What is hard however is to find something which is worth writing or talking about and then properly represent the subject via the medium.

With that maths is just another version of talking or writing, it is a way to communicate ideas to other individuals. Just like writing or talking what is hard is not actually doing maths but to find something which is worth spreading around the world and then get it down on paper correctly using accepted notation.

Also I am sure that your understanding of maths would be an extremely good predictor of IQ if you adjust for variables like the education of your parents and the courses you have taken.

Lastly maths do not have any more rules than writing. In maths you define all the rules yourself depending on what you need, but you are totally free to define the rules to whatever you want as long as you do not produce any contradictions. In low level maths you are just following predefined rules because maths is too deep to start with in any other way and the difference between this and teaching children things like the basic sentence structure is really non existent.
 
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This whole thread is pretty great :)
 
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I don't see much difference between the two.

1) In both, the most important thing is to see and develop a relationship between two or more characters.

2) Fill in the plot with some interesting constants to make the story believable; to make the numbers come out right.

3) Voila! Your story or equation is done. Now sell the movie rights, sit back, and watch the dollars roll in!
 
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Once upon a time there was one. One met another one, and thus there became two.

Now one and one were pretty indistinguishable, and people could not know which one they were addressing.

. . . . anyway, there's a story there.


Oh domain on the range,
where variables and numbers play,
where seldom is heard,
a discouraging word,
and the conclusions are not vague all day.
 
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[tex]H = I \omega, the Movie[/tex]

http://www.wfu.edu/physics/demolabs/demos/1/1q/1q4010.ram

"Drama. Adapted from a Broadway video capture card, this minimalist interpretation by director Rick Matthews explores the relationship between a man, his moment of inertia, and his angular velocity."

My personal review - The movie fails to develop enough depth in its characters, but the intentionally low budget style reflected in the lighting and sound editing give this movie a cute, light-headed feel that's reinforced by the surprise ending.
 
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I like this movie better:

A Boy and His Tire

"Romantic SF. Reminiscent of Harlan Ellison's masterpiece, this movie explores the development of an Earth changing relationship when a tire's angular momentum intermingles with the angular momentum of a young adult male. John Travis is spectacular in his debut performance as the interaction between the boy and the tire reaches such intensity that it literally delays the oncoming sunrise. Rated PG-13 for mature subject matter."

My personal review - I think one of the overlooked aspects of this movie is the fantastic performance turned in by the rotating platform. While a mere supporting actor, the rotating platform is the key to a frictionless transition from one phase of the relationship to the next - and she never loses her bearings!
 
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I find them both difficult.
 
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not even very advanced math requires more brainpower:

eg either

1. prove there exists an integer k such that a^(p-1) = 1 + k*p for any prime p and integer a

or

2. Write an article about something that could be published in a renowned magazine/paper

Assuming you haven't been shown the proof to 1 before (it is pretty simple), I'd bet less than 1 in a thousand people could find the proof in one week, whereas I'd think far more could manage 2 in the same time
 
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unusualname said:
1. prove there exists an integer k such that a^(p-1) = 1 + k*p for any prime p and integer a
...for any prime p and integer a coprime to p.
 
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I liked math&phys because I knew wrong and right were quite well defined (by definition). The other subjects tend to be much more subjective.

As for the need for brainpower, well in my case, it depends on my mood and motivation, not on what I'm doing.
 
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elfboy said:
Writing requires greater intellectual capabilities than advanced math because there are no rules with the exception grammar and spelling whereas with math it's more about repetition. Having an essay published in the New Yorker, for example, requires more brainpower than fully grasping general relativity.

Adjusting for outside variables such as socioeconomic status and age Vocabulary is regarded as the best best predictor of IQ.

Math is a very precise form of written communication.
 
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I may be alone in this but I find that the more math I do the more "brainpower" I feel I have. It seems easier for me to pick up on things in general (not just in math but nonacademic areas too) after learning some math. A couple of days of hardcore proof-theorem study of a new topic also seems to enhance my creativity a bit. I assume this is something that happens to everyone after struggling with some maths for a while.

So to answer the question writing may take more creativity (which is a form of brain power) than routine math but math can help you gain more creative and logical thinking skills. Of course with math there's a sort of ladder so if you try to learn a random math topic without the prereqs you will need ridiculous brain power whereas writing isn't as ordered in as far as once you get the basic skill set down you can write about any topic you have knowledge of.
 
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1. What is the difference between professional writing and advanced mathematics?

Professional writing involves creating written content for a specific audience or purpose, such as articles, reports, or marketing materials. Advanced mathematics, on the other hand, is a branch of mathematics that deals with complex concepts and applications, such as calculus, statistics, and geometry.

2. Which field requires more brainpower, professional writing or advanced mathematics?

This is subjective and depends on the individual's strengths and interests. Both fields require a lot of critical thinking and problem-solving skills, but the specific tasks and challenges may differ.

3. Is professional writing or advanced mathematics more challenging?

Again, this is subjective and can vary from person to person. Some may find the creative and technical aspects of professional writing more challenging, while others may struggle with the abstract concepts and calculations in advanced mathematics.

4. Can someone be good at both professional writing and advanced mathematics?

Definitely! While these fields may seem vastly different, they both require strong analytical and communication skills. Many individuals excel in both areas, and some even find ways to combine them in their careers.

5. Which field offers more career opportunities, professional writing or advanced mathematics?

Both fields offer a wide range of career opportunities, and it ultimately depends on the individual's interests and goals. Professional writing can lead to careers in journalism, marketing, or technical writing, while advanced mathematics can open doors to fields such as engineering, finance, and data analysis.

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