What Should Be Written for x3 in a Homogeneous System When x1 and x2 are Zero?

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The discussion revolves around solving a homogeneous system of equations represented by a specific matrix. The focus is on determining the value of x3 when both x1 and x2 are zero, particularly in the context of the implications of having a row of zeroes in the reduced matrix form.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the reduced row echelon form of the matrix and question how to express x3 given that x1 and x2 are zero. There is a discussion about the general solution format and how it applies in this specific case.

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Multiple interpretations of the role of x3 are being explored, with some participants suggesting that x3 can take any value while others emphasize the need to express it in terms of a parameter r. The discussion is ongoing without a clear consensus.

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Participants note that the system is homogeneous and that the presence of zero rows affects the interpretation of the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


Solve the homogeneous system of equations.

Homework Equations


The relevant matrix is like so:
1 0 0
-1 0 0
3-5 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Add R1 to R2, then add -3R1 to R3.

1 0 0
0 0 0
0-5 0

Interchange R2 and R3, then divide the new R2 by -1/5

1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 0

Under other circumstances where there's a general solution to such a matrix, with a row of zeroes on the bottom, but not an empty column for x3, you would write x3=r or what have you and then include r when solving for x1 and x2. In this case, where x1 and x2 simply equal zero, what would one write about x3?
 
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MoreDrinks said:

Homework Statement


Solve the homogeneous system of equations.


Homework Equations


The relevant matrix is like so:
1 0 0
-1 0 0
3-5 0


The Attempt at a Solution


Add R1 to R2, then add -3R1 to R3.

1 0 0
0 0 0
0-5 0

Interchange R2 and R3, then divide the new R2 by -1/5

1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 0

Under other circumstances where there's a general solution to such a matrix, with a row of zeroes on the bottom, but not an empty column for x3, you would write x3=r or what have you and then include r when solving for x1 and x2. In this case, where x1 and x2 simply equal zero, what would one write about x3?
x3 is arbitrary, meaning it can have any value.
 
In this case, you still have to set ##x_3 = r## for some ##r \in \mathbb{R}##.
 
Mark44 said:
x3 is arbitrary, meaning it can have any value.

Karnage1993 said:
In this case, you still have to set ##x_3 = r## for some ##r \in \mathbb{R}##.

Thank you both.
 

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