What Size Must Asteroids Be to Exceed Melting Temperatures of Ice and Rocks?

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The discussion revolves around determining the size of main-belt chondritic asteroids necessary for their internal temperatures to exceed the melting points of ice and rocks. Participants are considering relevant physical properties such as heat production, thermal conductivity, and density of chondritic materials.

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  • Participants discuss the application of heat flux and thermal diffusivity in relation to asteroid size. There are attempts to relate heat production to volume and to derive a formula for the radius of the asteroid based on temperature and heat flux.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between heat production, thermal conductivity, and temperature changes. There is an ongoing exploration of equations and concepts, with no clear consensus yet on the best approach to take.

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Participants are working under the constraints of needing to show initial attempts at the problem before receiving further assistance. There is also a mention of merging threads, indicating a broader interest in the topic.

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Consider main-belt chondritic asteroids. How large should be an asteroid so that the
maximal internal temperature exceeds the melting temperature of ice? Of rocks? For your
calculations, use the present-day chondritic heat production w = 4×10-12 W kg-1, typical
thermal conductivity of slightly fractured rock k = 2 W K-1m-1, and density r = 2700 kg
m-3 representative of chondritic materials. Make (and explain) a reasonable guess about
the surface temperature Ts and melting temperatures Tm of ice and rocks
 
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well i know heat flux = -k(dt/dr) this is change in temperature with depth and thermal diffusivity x= k/pC (here p is density and C is heat capacity). I just don't know how to apply heat production. I feel like I'm missing an equation and i have no idea what it is.
 
Heat production is given per mass, so with the density it's easy to work out heat production/volume. If you assume a spherical asteroid you can get a heat prouction / radius relation
 
the units for that would be W/m^3. this is almost heat flux (W/m^2). where would i go from there?
 
asteroid size

How large should be the body so that the maximal internal temperature reaches given
temperature Tm (melting temperature)?

I'm thinking i can use F= K*[(Ta-Tb)/(Ra-Rb)]. where F is heat flux, K is thermal conductivity, T is change in temperature and R is change in depth.
I'm thinking the radius i need should be R=(K*(Tm))/F, but I'm not sure if it is that easy.

I need some reassurance.

Thank you
 
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