What strategies can be used to solve complex scientific problems?

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The discussion revolves around strategies for solving complex scientific problems, specifically focusing on gravitational fields and their implications in physics. Participants are exploring the application of Gauss' law for gravity and its connection to differential equations.

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Can you list all relevant equations as well as your attempt at a solution?
 
you first need to show some genuine attempt yourself so that we can help you!
 
Try to find the equation for the gravitational field at a point within the Earth using gauss' law for gravity which is:

[tex]\oint_S \vec g \cdot d \vec A = - 4 \pi G \oint_V \rho dV[/tex]

If you haven't see the symbol [tex]\oint[/tex] it simply means that the integration is being taken over a closed surface or volume.
 
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Do not leave all these blank. Do some critical thinking yourself. Thats how PF works.
 
Here is what I have done:
Mass Earth = volume time (row) which is density
so M = 4/3 pi r^3 times row

so F= -GMm all over R^2 sub Mass Earth for big m (Question why do I sub for big not little m)
and get
f= -(4/3piG(row))mR
this has the form f = -kx so k = 4/3 piG(row) m
and T = 2pi times square root of m over k sub for k and get 2 pi times square root of 3pi all over row times G.

My question is how did my friend get that answer for the period and what do I do next?
 
Anybody know how this period equation was found?
 
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Anybody know how this period equation was found?

Yes for a differential equation of the form

[tex]\ddot x = - (\omega_0)^2 x[/tex]

where the dots denote time derivatives

the general solution is

[tex]x = A cos( \omega_0 t - \delta )[/tex]

and from here you can find the period as

[tex]T = \frac{2 \pi}{\omega_0}[/tex]

If you are wondering how to solve differential equations like this for yourself, the best way is to simply guess. We want a function whose second derivative is equal to a negative multiple of itself. What can you think of? There are only a few things that can satisfy such an equation. Sine and cosine, and exponential functions of imaginary numbers, which actually turn out to be equivalent. For example:

[tex]cos(x) = \frac{e^{ix} + e^{-ix}}{2}[/tex]
 
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Okay but know what should I do to find the answer to the problem?
 

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