What Transitions Create Calcium's Emission Lines at These Wavelengths?

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The forum discussion focuses on the emission lines of calcium observed at specific wavelengths: 422.7nm, 610.3nm, 612.3nm, 616.3nm, and 1034.9nm, resulting from transitions between the electronic configurations 4s2, 4s5s, and 4s4p. The selection rules governing these transitions include ΔS = 0, ΔL = 0, ±1, ΔJ = 0, ±1, and δl = ±1. The participants emphasize the importance of the Pauli exclusion principle and the need to correctly identify term symbols to account for all observed spectral lines. Misinterpretations regarding the transitions and the application of selection rules were clarified throughout the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Strong emission lines from calcium were observed at ##422.7nm##, ##610.3nm##, ##612.3nm##, ##616.3nm##, ##1034.9nm##, from transitions between ##4s^2##, ##4s5s## and ##4s4p##. The transition of ##422.7nm## was also observed at absorption. The singlet-triplet splitting of ##4s5s## is given by ##177 600 m^{-1}##.

Using selection rules or otherwise, draw the energy diagrams and identify which transitions correspond to the observed emission spectrum lines.

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The Attempt at a Solution



First, I converted the emission spectra into units of /m:

<br /> 422.7nm = 2365184 m^{-1}, 610.3nm = 1638270 m^{-1}, 612.3nm = 1632920 m^{-1}, 616.3nm = 1622323 m^{-1} ,1034.9nm = 966184 m^{-1}

Selection rule that is important here is: ##\Delta S = 0##:

However, I only obtain 4 emission lines - not sure where the 5th comes from.

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You have to start by figuring all the term symbols that you can get from the 4s2, 4s5s and 4s4p configurations.
 
For ##4s^2##, it's only ##4s S_0## and ##4s S_1##

For ##4s5s##, they are ## 4s5s S_0 ## and ## 4s5s S_1 ##

For ##4s4p##, they are ##4s4p P_1 ## and ## 4s4p P_0 ##

I now get 2 additional spectral lines with the addition of ## 4s S_1 ##:

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unscientific said:
For ##4s^2##, it's only ##4s S_0## and ##4s S_1##

For ##4s5s##, they are ## 4s5s S_0 ## and ## 4s5s S_1 ##

For ##4s4p##, they are ##4s4p P_1 ## and ## 4s4p P_0 ##
You results for 4s2 and 4s4p are not correct. You need to review the rules of addition of angular momenta and the Pauli exclusion principle.
 
unscientific said:
Selection rule that is important here is: ##\Delta S = 0##:
I forgot to say that this is not correct. All selection rules are important.
 

for ##4s^2##, outermost electron has ##l=0##, and the system can either be singlet (s=0) or tripplet (s=1) which gives ##j=1## or ##
j=0##.
The same applies for ##4s4p##, since ##l=1## either singlet (s=0) or triplet(s=1) which gives ##j=2## or ##j=1## so ##P_1## or ##P_2##.
 
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The selection rules are:

1. ##\Delta S = 0##

2. ##\Delta L = 0, \pm 1##

3. ##\Delta J = 0, \pm 1##

4. ##\delta l = \pm 1## (1 electron jump)

None of the transitions above violate these rules..
 
unscientific said:
for ##4s^2##, outermost electron has ##l=0##, and the system can either be singlet (s=0) or tripplet (s=1) which gives ##j=1## or ##
j=0##.
The same applies for ##4s4p##, since ##l=1## either singlet (s=0) or triplet(s=1) which gives ##j=2## or ##j=1## so ##P_1## or ##P_2##.
There are two electrons, not one. And what do singlet and triplet actually mean? (Hint: How can you get ##s=1##?)

unscientific said:
The selection rules are:

1. ##\Delta S = 0##

2. ##\Delta L = 0, \pm 1##

3. ##\Delta J = 0, \pm 1##

4. ##\delta l = \pm 1## (1 electron jump)

None of the transitions above violate these rules..
In your drawing, you for instance indicated a transition between 4s2 1S0 and 4s5s 1S0. Isn't this forbidden?
 
DrClaude said:
There are two electrons, not one. And what do singlet and triplet actually mean? (Hint: How can you get ##s=1##?)In your drawing, you for instance indicated a transition between 4s2 1S0 and 4s5s 1S0. Isn't this forbidden?

There is no change in S, since both are 0. There is also no change in L since both L=0. No change in J either.
 
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DrClaude said:
There are two electrons, not one. And what do singlet and triplet actually mean? (Hint: How can you get ##s=1##?)In your drawing, you for instance indicated a transition between 4s2 1S0 and 4s5s 1S0. Isn't this forbidden?

I get ##s=1## when both spins point up or down or (down-up + up-down)
 
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unscientific said:
There is no change in S, since both are 0. There is also no change in L since both L=0. No change in J either.
And what about ##\Delta l##?

unscientific said:
I get ##s=1## when both spins point up or down or (down-up + up-down)
Is this possible in the 4s2 configuration?
 
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DrClaude said:
And what about ##\Delta l##?Is this possible in the 4s2 configuration?

##\Delta l = 1##, so is this incompatible with the fact that ##\Delta L = 0##?

The ##4s^2## configuration only tell us that ##L=0##, it says nothing or puts no restrictions on spin.
 
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unscientific said:
##\Delta l = 1##, so is this incompatible with the fact that ##\Delta L = 0##?
The two are compatible. One puts a restriction on the configurations involved, the other on the term symbol. In other words, you can't have a transition between 4s2 and 4s5s, whatever ##L## each corresponds to, as this would break the ##\Delta l = \pm1## rule.

unscientific said:
The ##4s^2## configuration only tell us that ##L=0##, it says nothing or puts no restrictions on spin.
Here it is not about selection rules, but the Pauli exclusion principle.
 
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DrClaude said:
The two are compatible. One puts a restriction on the configurations involved, the other on the term symbol. In other words, you can't have a transition between 4s2 and 4s5s, whatever ##L## each corresponds to, as this would break the ##\Delta l = \pm1## rule.Here it is not about selection rules, but the Pauli exclusion principle.

So to consider transition for ##4s^2## to ## 4s5s##, it implies that ##\Delta L = 0## and ##\Delta l = 0##, which violates the ##\delta l = \pm1 ## rule.

I know the overall wavefunction must be anti-symmetric, but must the spatial part be symmetric? (does being in the same orbital imply that?)
 
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unscientific said:
I know the overall wavefunction must be anti-symmetric, but must the spatial part be symmetric? (does being in the same orbital imply that?)
The Pauli principle imposes rules on the symmetry of the wave function. What is important here is the consequence of the Pauli principle known as the Pauli exclusion principle, which states that no two fermions can occupy the same state.
 
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DrClaude said:
The Pauli principle imposes rules on the symmetry of the wave function. What is important here is the consequence of the Pauli principle known as the Pauli exclusion principle, which states that no two fermions can occupy the same state.

Does this mean for ##L=0##, the spins must be anti-aligned (s=0) so that they don't have the same state - defined by spin and orbital state.
 
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unscientific said:
Does this mean for ##L=0##, the spins must be anti-aligned (s=0) so that they don't have the same state - defined by spin and orbital state.
Not exactly. It has nothing per say to do with ##L=0## (you can have 3S states). But in the 4s2 configuration, the two electrons have ##n=4##, ##l=0##, ##m_l=0##. They only way for them not to be in the same state is for one to have ##m_s=+1/2##, and the other ##m_s=-1/2##.
 

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