What wall thickness should be used for a steel tubing boom crane?

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The discussion revolves around the design considerations for a boom crane intended for use with a tractor, specifically focusing on the appropriate wall thickness for steel tubing. Participants explore the mechanics of the crane, including load calculations and structural integrity, while considering various design elements and existing models.

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Main Points Raised

  • A participant describes their intention to build a boom crane using A39 steel tube with a specific design involving a class 3 lever and a maximum load of 500#.
  • The participant seeks guidance on calculating the necessary wall thickness to prevent buckling at the force point, noting the lack of available resources for point load calculations.
  • Another participant suggests that a sketch would help clarify the design and load distribution for better understanding.
  • A third participant provides examples of existing jib crane designs, including links to products and DIY plans, which may inform the participant's design choices.
  • The participant mentions a commercial crane that uses a different tube size and wall thickness, indicating a preference for a lighter design while still considering structural integrity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus on the specific wall thickness needed for the steel tubing, and multiple perspectives on design and load considerations are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the calculations for buckling and the strength of materials, indicating a reliance on basic principles that may not be fully recalled. The discussion also highlights the need for visual aids to better assess the design.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY engineering projects, particularly those involving cranes or heavy lifting equipment, as well as those looking to understand structural considerations in mechanical design.

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Class 3 lever design, how to calculate buckling at force point.
Hello, I am a retired electrical engineer who likes to tinker and invent. As I am getting older I find the moving of logs is getting harder to do, so I am thinking of building a boom crane to attach to the 3 pt hitch on one of my tractors.

The design would basically be a class 3 lever, with a distance of 16" from fulcrum to force, and 48" from force to load. With a max load of 500#, the force is 2000#.

Using A39 steel tube, 2" square, I am wondering about what wall thickness to use. There will be a reinforcing plate at the force point and a tension strap/rod along the top, but I am looking to calculate based on the simplified design of point load and force without any reinforcement of the tube.

It has been way to may years since my basic strength of materials courses in university to remember the formulas. Searching the net has only brought up distributed load on beams. It did bring me to this site!

I would just like to get an idea of how to calculate the strength needed to prevent buckling at the force point.

Mudrat
 
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We need a sketch to properly understand your question.
 
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The Hayes 500 kg unit is along the lines of what I am thinking of. It is twice the capacity, unknown boom length.

They use the equivalent of 3" x 2" 3/16" wall tube. Also at 60 kg it is heavier than what I want.
 

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