What was the initial velocity of a curling stone released at the hog line?

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The problem involves determining the initial velocity of a curling stone released at the hog line, given its mass, distance traveled, and the coefficient of kinetic friction. The context is rooted in classical mechanics, specifically relating to motion and forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various principles that could relate work to energy, and the role of friction in the problem. There is exploration of equations that connect velocity, distance, and acceleration, with some participants suggesting different approaches to solve the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about relevant equations and methods. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between distance, velocity, and acceleration, as well as the influence of friction on motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that they have not yet covered energy concepts in their studies, which may limit their approach to solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


A 20.00kg curling stone is released at the hog line and moves 28.35m [W] to sit on the button and score a point. If the coefficient of kinetic friction between the stone and the ice is 0.0020000, what was the initial speed of the stone ?

So we know:
m=20.00kg
d=28.35m[W]
Fk=0.0020000
Vi=?


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm stuck on what I have to find first to end up finding the velocity. Once I know what I need to find first I can figure it on from there. I am not asking for any answers, just what I have to find first. Any help is appreciated.
 
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What principle relates work to energy?
 
Force of friction ?
 
Or are you studying distance, acceleration equations?
 
Distance and acceleration equations. We haven't learned anything with energy yet.
 
This problem can be solved by a velocity, distance, acceleration approach or by energy considerations. Which is it?
 
Ok, our posts crossed. Do you know of an equation that relates velocity to distance and acceleration?
 
LawrenceC said:
Ok, our posts crossed. Do you know of an equation that relates velocity to distance and acceleration?

The only equation I know that has velocity, acceleration and distance is :
Δd=v1Δt + 1/2 aΔt^2
 
You have d = 1/2 * a * t^2. You also have V = a * t. Using both equations, eliminate the time variable.
 
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t=v/a
2d/a=t^2
 
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Plug the expression you have for t into the distance equation. That gives you a relationship between velocity, distance, and acceleration. You can get the acceleration from Newton's Law considering friction and mass and gravity.

I have to be signing off now. If you are still having difficulty, hang in there. There are plenty of competent helpers on this forum who will be glad to help out.
 
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LawrenceC said:
Plug the expression you have for t into the distance equation. That gives you a relationship between velocity, distance, and acceleration. You can get the acceleration from Newton's Law considering friction and mass and gravity.

I have to be signing off now. If you are still having difficulty, hang in there. There are plenty of competent helpers on this forum who will be glad to help out.

Ahhh, okay. Thank you for your help !
 

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