What Went Wrong with My Attempted Rotation Matrix for A?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the components of a vector A after a rotation of -45 degrees about the X3 axis. The original vector is given as A=(1,1,2), and participants are examining the appropriate rotation matrix and the resulting transformed vector.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the rotation matrix for a rotation about the X3 axis and question the correctness of the original poster's calculations. There is a focus on the expected behavior of the components after rotation and the implications of the chosen angle.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the transformation matrix and the calculations performed. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made regarding the rotation and the resulting vector components. Clarifications are being sought regarding the correct application of the rotation matrix.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating discrepancies in the transformation matrix used and the expected outcomes of the rotation. The original poster's confusion about the results and the rotation direction is a central theme in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Find the components of A after a rotation of -45 degrees about X3.

A=(1,1,2)

Homework Equations



\lambda=

(cos\theta 0 -sin\theta)
( 0 1 0 )
(sin\theta 0 cos\theta)


The Attempt at a Solution



Above is my attempt to show you guys the rotation matrix when rotated about the X3 axis. So my strategy was to plug in -45 degrees into the thetas. Once I got a value for each element in the matrix, I checked to see if A' was equal to A. However, I ended up getting A'=(0,SQRT(2),2). This does not equal A.

Where did I go wrong? Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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shoudn't the compononents be different after a rotatino?

now a couple of points on what you;ve done anyway...

if you're rotating around X3, the X3 component should be unchanged, so the matrix you have isn't correct.

even if it were correct, the multiplication doesn't look correct, the 1st component should be
1.cos(\theta) + 1.0 2sin(\theta)
 
No. My X3 component did remain unchanged. It started out as 2 and after the transform it remained 2.

I am confused as to where you got 1.cos(theta) + 1.02sin(theta).
 
What you've written so far doesn't make sense. You said you calculated

\mathbf{A}&#039; = \begin{bmatrix}\cos \theta &amp; 0 &amp; -\sin \theta \\ 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\ \sin\theta &amp; 0 &amp; \cos\theta\end{bmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 2\end{pmatrix}<br /> = \begin{pmatrix}\cos\theta-2\sin\theta\\1\\\sin\theta+2\cos\theta\end{pmatrix}

when \theta=-45^\circ, right? How did you get

\mathbf{A}&#039;=\begin{pmatrix}0 \\ \sqrt{2} \\ 2\end{pmatrix}

from that?
 
@vela

That is not the transformation matrix I used. When rotating about X3, the transformation matrix should look like:(cos(theta) sin(theta) 0)
(-sin(theta) cos(theta) 0)
(0 0 1)Then, after multiplying this with A, it would look like:

(cos(-45) + sin(-45))
(-sin(-45) + cos(-45))
(2 )

Which equals:

(1/(sqrt(2)) + -1/(sqrt(2))
(1/(sqrt(2)) + 1/(sqrt(2)))
(2 )Which equals:

(0)
(2/sqrt(2))
(2)That's how I got that answer.
 
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ok that looks better... you need to be clear in communicating what you've what you've done, we can't guess...

so is there an issue?
 
w3390 said:
@vela

That is not the transformation matrix I used.
OK, but that's the matrix you gave in your original post.
When rotating about X3, the transformation matrix should look like:


(cos(theta) sin(theta) 0)
(-sin(theta) cos(theta) 0)
(0 0 1)


Then, after multiplying this with A, it would look like:

(cos(-45) + sin(-45))
(-sin(-45) + cos(-45))
(2 )

Which equals:

(1/(sqrt(2)) + -1/(sqrt(2))
(1/(sqrt(2)) + 1/(sqrt(2)))
(2 )


Which equals:

(0)
(2/sqrt(2))
(2)


That's how I got that answer.
You have the minus sign in the wrong place in your rotation matrix. Your answer is actually A rotated by +45 degrees.
 
Okay. Then all that would do is switch the top and middle value of my A' matrix.
 

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