What Would Watching TV on the Moon or in Deep Space Look Like?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and visual experience of watching television on the Moon, particularly on its far side, and in deep space. Participants explore the implications of signal transmission, reception challenges, and the nature of static or "snowstorm" visuals in these environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what watching TV on the hidden side of the Moon would look like and whether the Moon would block the transmission, speculating it might still appear as a snowstorm.
  • Another participant suggests that the signal would be too weak for a standard TV receiver to obtain a useful signal outside of about 100 km from a transmitter, leading to only a "snowstorm" visual.
  • A different participant mentions that Apollo astronauts lost communications when orbiting the backside of the Moon, implying that similar issues would affect TV reception.
  • One contributor notes that mountainous regions face similar challenges with TV reception due to obstructions, highlighting the potential for the Moon to serve as a radio telescope to minimize terrestrial interference.
  • Another participant asserts that static seen on a TV is largely due to Cosmic Background Radiation, reiterating that one would still see a snowstorm on the far side of the Moon.
  • A participant raises a question about whether all TVs have antennas, reflecting on the prevalence of cable and satellite usage in the USA compared to terrestrial broadcasts, and discusses the impact of digital TV on reception quality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of receiving TV signals on the Moon, with some asserting that it would be impossible due to signal blockage, while others speculate on the nature of the visuals that would be seen. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of TV reception in these environments.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions include that all TVs have CRTs and that participants are considering traditional analog reception methods. The discussion does not clarify the impact of digital technology on reception in these scenarios.

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if i were to turn on a tv on the hidden side of the moon, what would it look like?
would the moon block the tv transmition?
if it did, what would it still look like a snow storm?

if not, then what if i turned on a tv in deep space?
would i see just a small snowstorm?

-sw
 
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I would think that even on the near side of the moon the signal would be to weak for your off the shelf TV receiver to get a useful signal.

Any where outside of about 100km from a TV transmitter you would only see a "snowstorm" with a off the shelf TV. TV signals are very directional, to get a good signal you need to have very nearly a line of sight on the transmitting antenna. So the far side of the moon could not receive a meaningful signal. Therefore you would only see the "snowstorm".

I guess you were not around for the early days of TV. We finally got a TV in 1956 when a transmitting tower was built on the top of a hill about 5mi from our home. WE could see the tower and got a beautiful signal. My cousin OTOH lived 15 miles away and was behind a hill which shadowed their home from the transmitter. They did not receive any signal from that station. This is why you see satellite dishes in areas many rural areas. It is not possible to receive a transmitted signal.
 
And more recently (but still before skywolf was born), the Apollo astronauts would lose communications when orbiting around the backside of the moon. I don't think there's any way to avoid that. Well, unless we learn to make neutrino transceivers that fit on a spacecraft . That would be a fun project to work on...
 
Over-the-air (OTA) TV reception can be very difficult for people living in mountain valleys, because the mountains get in the way. Most of the stations that serve western North Carolina operate several low-power "translators" that re-broadcast their signal to serve specific towns. I'm sure this is common in other mountainous areas.

The back side of the moon would be a great place to put a radio telescope because the moon would block most of the interference from terrestrial sources!
 
You'd still get a snowstorm, because that static is largely made from the Cosmic Background Radiation.

If attemting this on the far side of the Moon; get Cable!
 
skywolf said:
if i were to turn on a tv on the hidden side of the moon, what would it look like?
would the moon block the tv transmition?
if it did, what would it still look like a snow storm?

if not, then what if i turned on a tv in deep space?
would i see just a small snowstorm?

-sw
Assumed: All tvs have CRTs.
Do all tvs have antennas? I always think of the television as just the CRT part, and not a cable descrabler in addition or something like that.
 
mk said:
Do all tvs have antennas?

I've read that here in the USA, about 85% of the population uses cable or satellite as their primary source of TV. I'm among the other 15% that uses only terrestrial broadcasts. But I don't get any "snow" even though most of my stations are > 60 miles (100 km) away, because for the last year I've been using digital TV (including high-definition) instead of analog. If you can keep the signal strength above a certain threshold, reception is perfect. I have to use a good antenna on the roof for this, but I had to use one anyway for a halfway decent analog picture.
 

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