What's Next for SpaceX and Space Exploration in 2018?

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The discussion revolves around upcoming events and milestones in space exploration for the year 2018, with a focus on various missions, including the Falcon Heavy launch, BepiColombo's journey to Mercury, and other related space activities. Participants share insights on technical challenges, launch schedules, and the significance of these missions.

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  • Some participants discuss the BepiColombo mission to Mercury, questioning the lengthy timeline for its journey and the challenges of reaching Mercury's orbit due to angular momentum.
  • There is excitement about the Falcon Heavy's maiden flight, with details shared about its payload capacity and the planned launch sequence, including the simultaneous landing of side boosters.
  • Participants note the significance of the Electron rocket's achievements, including its unique features and its role in the small satellite market.
  • Some express skepticism about the authenticity of the launch footage, while others confirm it was live and highlight the impressive visuals of the Tesla Roadster in space.
  • References to popular culture, such as "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy," are made, with discussions about the thematic elements present in the Falcon Heavy launch.
  • Questions arise regarding the specifications of the Tesla Roadster used in the launch, including its weight and power sources.

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Participants generally express excitement about the upcoming launches and missions, but there are differing opinions on specific details, such as the timeline for the BepiColombo mission and the nature of the Tesla Roadster's components. The discussion remains unresolved on several technical aspects.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the Falcon Heavy launch and the specifications of the rockets involve assumptions that may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes various perspectives on the technical challenges faced by different missions.

  • #31
mfb said:
"the reference"?
The glovebox has the book - and a towel, of course.

but it's more obvious than that, you don't have to open the glovebox ...
"DON"T PANIC"
Don't Panic[edit]
Towels in Innsbruck with the words "DON'T PANIC" on Towel Day
In the series, Don't Panic is a phrase on the cover of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.[1] The novel explains that this was partly because the device "looked insanely complicated" to operate, and partly to keep intergalactic travellers from panicking.[38] "It is said that despite its many glaring (and occasionally fatal) inaccuracies, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy itself has outsold the Encyclopedia Galactica because it is slightly cheaper, and because it has the words 'DON'T PANIC' in large, friendly letters on the cover."[1]

Arthur C. Clarke said Douglas Adams' use of "don't panic" was perhaps the best advice that could be given to humanity.[39]

On February 6th, 2018 SpaceX launched the Falcon Heavy rocket, carrying Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster which had "Don't Panic!" written on the screen on the dash.
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  • #32
Cool. Thanks for the updates!
 
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Landing sonic booms.
 
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  • #34
Did the roadster have its lithium batteries and electric motors? I'm guessing it's little more than a shell (lightweight plastic?)...
 
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  • #35
Probably lightweight metal. They need some power for the cameras but that might come from the second stage.

The core booster didn’t make it - failed to reignite two of the planned three engines and hit the water close to the drone ship at high speed.
 
  • #36
nsaspook said:

That is seriously awesome! Wow. :wideeyed:
 
  • #39
From the comment section of,



From commenter Funky Monkey1886

"Now when alien life forms come to the solar system they'll find a red land going vehicle orbiting a lifeless planet being driven by a plastic astronaut. If that doesn't cause them to have a massive WTF moment then nothing will."
 
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  • #40
strangerep said:
Did the roadster have its lithium batteries and electric motors? I'm guessing it's little more than a shell (lightweight plastic?)...
From what I understand, it is Elon Musk's old roadster, unmodified. In the post-launch press conference, he said something to the effect that it was much more inspiring than just lifting a block of concrete, which he said was the conventional test-flight payload. While he didn't mention anything about the battery or the motor, he did specifically say that the car was not "prepared" for space, and that he didn't know how the fabric of the seats would hold up in space.
 
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  • #41
OmCheeto said:
Apparently, we are still live:


Hmm, another 'live' view but it is different from yours.

 
  • #42
Reddit went bananas last night with comments about the car in space. My favorite was a picture of Elon Musk with the caption, "Hey dude. Where's my car?" My second favorite was, "Elon Musk killed someone and he found the perfect way to dispose of the body without getting caught."

I was privileged. I live nearby, so I saw the launch going up and the two boosters coming down. Amazing.

It made me think of SF stories I read in the 50s about men going to the Moon and Mars and it all sounded so unlikely at the time. But none of those authors dared to suggest synchronized landings, nor did they predict that the world would watch on live TV when the first man set foot on the moon. We get disappointed when technology fails to live up to hyperbole, but other times it exceeds our wildest dreams.
 
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  • #43
anorlunda said:
I was privileged. I live nearby, so I saw the launch going up and the two boosters coming down. Amazing.
It's on my bucket list to see a launch like that! I need a schedule! Would be great to meet up too!
 
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  • #44
Borg said:
Hmm, another 'live' view but it is different from yours.


At last count, there are over 2000 musical overdubs on youtube. (guessing!)

Emily Lakdawalla and I both heard/emotionalized "The Blue Danube".

Not sure how many people caught the Abram's-esque "lens flare" :oldeyes:, but that put another song in my head.

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Was that "Thus spoke Zarathustra"?
 

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  • #45
I am loving this!

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Sorry. Not sorry.
 

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  • #46
Below is a link to the orbit of Starman after the last burn.

Starman's orbit
 
  • #47
OmCheeto said:
I am loving this!

View attachment 219893

Sorry. Not sorry.

But... how did it get into the Delta Quadrant?
 
  • #48
boneh3ad said:
But... how did it get into the Delta Quadrant?
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Another Alien transporter accident.
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  • #49
Greg Bernhardt said:
It's on my bucket list to see a launch like that! I need a schedule! Would be great to meet up too!
List of SpaceX launches
List of all launches
Caveat: It is common that launches get delayed. Sometimes the satellite is not ready yet, sometimes the rocket or the launch pad are not ready. Sometimes delays occur on very short notice, especially in Florida with its weather and with new rockets where the operation is not yet routine.
If you don’t live close, don’t book a trip more than 1-2 weeks in advance, and take into account that a launch might get delayed by a few days.
 
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  • #50
Next stop?
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Are we there yet?
 

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  • #51
@mfb Love the new avatar. :woot:

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  • #52
Greg Bernhardt said:
It's on my bucket list to see a launch like that!
I wonder when the BFR will have its first launch. I might have to take a vacation to Florida for that one.
 
  • #53
Borg said:
I wonder when the BFR will have its first launch. I might have to take a vacation to Florida for that one.
In the press conference Musk indicated that first hops could happen in 2019. That will probably mean 2020-2021. It is still unclear where - the new site in Texas and drone ships are both interesting options.
Flights of the full rocket will come later.
 
  • #54
mfb said:
Caveat: It is common that launches get delayed.

It's a terrible situation. The KSC Visistor's Center sells tickets for a close-up view of a launch for $200/person. But once the bus leaves the Visitors Center, no refunds are given even if the launch is canceled or delayed. I think that is predatory.

Too bad, I sold my boat. In the past I was able to sail my boat as close to the launch pad as anyone gets and anchor free of charge. For night launches especially, that was dramatic. I could have offered @Greg Bernhardt a front row seat for free, but alas no longer.
 
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  • #55
mfb said:
List of all launches
Wow I had no idea there were so many launches. Seems the whole world uses the pad!

The Falcon 9 seems like a nice size rocket. Maybe I could swing a trip for March 20th to see TESS take off.
 
  • #56
Has anyone heard what the status of the live feed is? I have heard that the batteries ran out on the Tesla and what we're seeing now is just old footage even though the feed says otherwise. Also AFAIK, there isn't a large antenna so its signal would get harder to pick up as it gets farther from us. Eventually we will lose contact but has it happened already?

Makes me wonder how people will follow this over the years. Will the first Mars missions will pass within visual distance of the Tesla someday? Will Hubble take pictures of it occasionally? I also can't imagine that someone wouldn't retrieve it in the distant future and put it in a museum.
 
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  • #57
Borg said:
Has anyone heard what the status of the live feed is?
I just saw a picture on the news that claims to be the "last" picture from the car.
 
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  • #58
anorlunda said:
The KSC Visistor's Center sells tickets for a close-up view of a launch for $200/person. But once the bus leaves the Visitors Center, no refunds are given even if the launch is canceled or delayed. I think that is predatory.
For the FH launch, they offered free re-admittance if the launch gets shifted.
Greg Bernhardt said:
Wow I had no idea there were so many launches. Seems the whole world uses the pad!
The second link is the list of launches of the whole world.
Or did you expect Chinese rockets to launch from Florida? ;)

The car should be visible to good telescopes for quite some time, if (!) someone tracks it we get a nice orbit determination. The car should be bright enough to observe it frequently for the largest telescopes, but time for that is probably very limited.
 
  • #59
mfb said:
The second link is the list of launches of the whole world.
Or did you expect Chinese rockets to launch from Florida? ;)
Good point, I see that now :)
 
  • #60
Spinnor said:
"Now when alien life forms come to the solar system they'll find a red land going vehicle orbiting a lifeless planet being driven by a plastic astronaut. If that doesn't cause them to have a massive WTF moment then nothing will."

On the circuit its written, "Made on Earth by 'humans'". It's so hilarious.
 

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