What's the Algebraic Method to Solve the Limit of sin(x)/x?

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The discussion revolves around finding the algebraic limit of the expression sin(x)/x as x approaches a specific value. Participants are exploring various methods to solve this limit without using L'Hôpital's rule, which has not yet been covered in their studies.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the challenges of obtaining a 0/0 form and express a desire for hints on alternative approaches. Suggestions include using substitution and trigonometric identities, as well as exploring the known limit of sin(x)/x as x approaches 0.

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Some participants have offered suggestions for substitution and the use of trigonometric identities, while others are still grappling with the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the need to solve the limit without L'Hôpital's rule, and a few productive lines of reasoning have been proposed.

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Participants are working through problems from a textbook and are currently restricted from using L'Hôpital's rule, which is not covered until later chapters. This constraint influences their approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement



I'm stuck trying to algebraically find the limit of this expression shown below.
If I use L'Hospital I get the answer (√3) / 2 which is the correct answer, but it seems like no matter what I try I end up with 0/0.

Any hints of how to attack this is appreciated.

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jkristia said:

Homework Statement



I'm stuck trying to algebraically find the limit of this expression shown below.
If I use L'Hospital I get the answer (√3) / 2 which is the correct answer, but it seems like no matter what I try I end up with 0/0.

Any hints of how to attack this is appreciated.

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I'm not sure why you'd want to approach it another way. Aren't you allowed to use l'Hopital? If not try substituting x=u+pi/6 and let u->0.
 


Thank you for your suggestion, but even with substitution I keep going in circles. I will continue looking at this tomorow.

As for not using L'Hopital, I'm doing self study at the moment, working through problems in the book, and L'Hopital is not covered until another 7 chapters, so I figured I have to try and solve this without.
 


jkristia said:
Thank you for your suggestion, but even with substitution I keep going in circles. I will continue looking at this tomorow.

As for not using L'Hopital, I'm doing self study at the moment, working through problems in the book, and L'Hopital is not covered until another 7 chapters, so I figured I have to try and solve this without.

Use the trig rule sin(a+b)=sin(a)cos(b)+cos(a)sin(b). And you know the limits of sin(u)/u and (1-cos(u))/u, yes?
 
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Another possibility is to write 1/2 as sin(π/6) and then use a sum to product identity from trig. It still requires you to know the limit of sin(x)/x as x → 0 .

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Thank you. I think replacing 1/2 with sin(pi/6) is what I was missing. I know the limit of sin(x)/x = 1.
 

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