Whats the best intro quantum mechanics out there?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for introductory quantum mechanics textbooks suitable for students with limited mathematical background. Participants explore various books and approaches to teaching quantum mechanics, including the balance of mathematical rigor and conceptual clarity.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for a quantum mechanics book that avoids complex mathematics beyond calculus 3.
  • Another participant suggests Griffiths' "Introduction to Quantum Mechanics" as a gentle undergraduate text, while noting its cost and the availability of Schaum's Outline as a more affordable alternative.
  • A participant questions the level of mathematics required, indicating that familiarity with Fourier series and ordinary differential equations (ODEs) is likely necessary for most textbooks.
  • Liboff is recommended by one participant for its combination of wave mechanics and Dirac notation, followed by Shankar's work for its emphasis on linear algebra.
  • French and Taylor are mentioned as a suitable starting point, along with McGervey's book, which is noted to be out of print but still valuable.
  • One participant inquires about the two approaches to quantum mechanics, specifically matrix mechanics and wave mechanics, seeking guidance on which is more suitable for beginners.
  • A response clarifies that wave mechanics is typically introduced first, with matrix methods appearing later, particularly in discussions of angular momentum and spin. It is noted that many textbooks incorporate both approaches.
  • Marvin Chester's "Primer of Quantum Mechanics" is suggested for its focus on the physical meaning of the Dirac formalism, while Feynman's Lectures and Shankar's text are also mentioned for their pedagogical introductions.
  • A participant highlights the prologue of Schwinger's "Quantum Mechanics: Symbolism of Atomic Measurements" as an inspiring non-mathematical resource for understanding quantum mechanics fundamentals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present a variety of textbook recommendations and approaches, indicating that there is no consensus on a single best resource. Multiple competing views on the suitability of different texts and methods remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the necessity of a certain level of mathematical sophistication in quantum mechanics, which may limit the options for those seeking less complex treatments. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with mathematical concepts among participants.

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Hi, I am currently a student in a university... my teacher is going over quantum physics which i don't understand a bit... i mean i understand the uncertainty principle but i want a book with more mathematical (not too complicated math) and physics treatments, explanations without using calc 4 math...

what is the best intro quantum physics book out there?
 
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Well, you're not going to find a quantum mechanics textbook without "complicated math," simply because the subject demands a certain level of mathematical sophistication.

That said, the gentlest undergraduate quantum mechanics book, in my opinion, is Griffiths' Introduction to Quantum Mechanics. It's a USD $100+ book, however. The much cheaper Schaum's Outline of Quantum Mechanics is less readable, but is also very good at showing the tricks of the trade.

- Warren
 
What's calc 4 math? The series I took only went up to 3.

I haven't read this book, but it seems highly thought of.

I think most textbooks are going to require at least some familiarity with Fourier series and ODEs.
 
I used Liboff for my introduction. I like it because it uses a healthy mix of wave mechanics and dirac notation (which are best taught simultaneously, IMHO). After that, I went to Shankar's "Principles of QM", which is very heavy on the linear algebra (read: awesome!).
 
French and Taylor isn't a bad book to start with, I used it as a 2nd year student a long time ago. McGervey is out of print, but still a decent intro to Modern Physics/QM. Used Liboff as a first course in graduate school when I went back for my PhD, there wasn't anything I saw in it I hadn't already seen before at a higher level.
 
thx for the help, i'll try to check out the books recommanded... but juse one more question, i heard that there are two approaches to quantum mechanics, one with matrix and the other with... something else. which one would be best for beginners to learn? which is more useful in general?
 
tim_lou said:
thx for the help, i'll try to check out the books recommanded... but juse one more question, i heard that there are two approaches to quantum mechanics, one with matrix and the other with... something else. which one would be best for beginners to learn? which is more useful in general?

The other approach is Schroedinger's wave mechanics. This is the approach that undergrads are usually started on (e.g. in Resnick and Eisberg's Quantum Physics of Atoms, Molecules, Solids, Nuclei, and Particles). Most books use both approaches. Matrix methods are usually encountered in the discussion of angular momentum and spin. Dirac integrated the approaches in his bra-ket formalism.

A nice book that starts with the Dirac formalism is Marvin Chester Primer of Quantum Mechanics. He emphasises the physical meaning of the formalism in terms of measurement. Feynman also uses Dirac notation in volume 3 of his Lectures on Physics. And the first chapter of Shankar, Principles of Quantum Mechanics has a very deliberate and pedagogical introduction.
 
By the way, if you can find it in a library, the prologue (about 28 pages) of Schwinger's Quantum Mechanics: Symbolism of Atomic Measurements is a non-mathematical lecture on the fundamentals of quantum mechanics which is very inspiring and enlightening. I think anyone studying QM should read this.
 

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