Whats the deal with the higgs boson?

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The discussion centers around the Higgs boson, its role in particle physics, and the current status of its detection. Participants explore theoretical implications, detection methods, and sources for further information, reflecting on both the scientific and public interest in the topic.

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  • Some participants express uncertainty about the current status of Higgs boson detection and seek reliable sources for information.
  • There is mention of a tentative detection from the LHC, with one participant estimating a 60-70% probability of its correctness.
  • Others highlight the Higgs boson's critical role in the standard model of particle physics and the implications of its absence for existing theories.
  • Some participants suggest that new data and analysis from CERN are expected soon, with optimism about confirming the detection.
  • References to external resources, such as blogs and videos, are provided for further exploration of the topic.
  • There is a clarification that while the Higgs boson is theorized to exist, definitive detection has not yet been achieved.

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Participants generally agree on the significance of the Higgs boson in theoretical physics, but there is no consensus on the status of its detection, with some expressing optimism and others highlighting the uncertainty surrounding it.

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The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and differing opinions on the implications of the Higgs boson’s detection, as well as the reliability of sources for information on the topic.

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from the little info i have found it i gather we are still looking. where can i find more info? google just brings up wiki and some crap from cnn. i don't know much about it, however i would like to. if it gives other particles mass how can we find it in a particle collider? wouldn't it already have affected the particles used? or would it give them mass again? would the chances be better in a pure vacuum? any help would be appreciated.
 
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Darken-Sol said:
from the little info i have found it i gather we are still looking. where can i find more info? google just brings up wiki and some crap from cnn. i don't know much about it, however i would like to. if it gives other particles mass how can we find it in a particle collider? wouldn't it already have affected the particles used? or would it give them mass again? would the chances be better in a pure vacuum? any help would be appreciated.
There is a tentative detection from the LHC late last year. The two main particle detectors each saw relatively small excesses in their Higgs signals at the same place. The detection isn't definitive yet, but I'd personally give it about a 60-70% probability of being correct. Here's a write-up that you might be interested in:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21457-what-the-latest-lhc-revelations-say-about-the-higgs.html
 
The Higgs boson is a critical, missing piece in modern particle theory. Without the Higgs, the current model would require major changes. Given the current model works very well, this would not be a convenient outcome. The best place to watch for new information is at the CERN site. New data and analysis is expected this year. I'm fairly optimistic detection will be confirmed. This will be huge news - as in the kind meriting mention on major news networks.
 
The Higgs boson is a critical, missing piece in modern particle theory.

You mean its there in theory but we haven't detected it yet, right?
 
Naty1 said:
You mean its there in theory but we haven't detected it yet, right?
It's an essential component of the standard model and many proposed theories that go beyond the standard model. While we do not yet have a definitive detection, there is a tentative one that was announced late last year by both of the main LHC experiments (CMS and Atlas).
 
As both detectors already collected the same amount of data as 2011 this year (technically, 20% less integrated luminosity, but the higher energy compensates this)[/size], expect new results at the summer conferences.

Friday morning (Vancouver, probably PDT), both collaborations (ATLAS and CMS) will give a talk about their higgs searches - maybe they can present something from 2012, but probably nothing conclusive.
Another good date would be the first week in july.
 
In reply to Darken-Sol.
A good reference source for updated information is theoretical physicist Professor Matt Strassler's blog just Google for same. You can have his regular updates delivered to your inbox by signing-up and he will be pleased to answer any queries you may have. His penchant for data accuracy by way of opinion is highly recommended.
 
thank you. you guys are awesome.
 

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