What's the meaning of strength?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of strength in materials, particularly focusing on the relationship between hardness and brittleness. Participants explore definitions and characteristics of materials like martensite, questioning how a material can be both hard and brittle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the definitions of hardness and brittleness, noting that brittle materials have yield strengths close to their breaking strengths, which seems contradictory to being hard.
  • Another participant suggests that hardness relates to the difficulty of compressing a material, indicating that a large force is required for a small change in shape or volume.
  • A different viewpoint is presented, stating that harder materials tend to have less flexibility and can break more easily under certain conditions, as they do not absorb vibrations or impacts as effectively.
  • One participant provides a link to a Wikipedia page that outlines several definitions of hardness, implying that the concept may vary based on context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the definitions and implications of hardness and brittleness, with multiple competing views and interpretations remaining in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of hardness and brittleness, as well as the assumptions underlying the relationships between these properties and material behavior.

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I am coming across definitions which says certain substances (like martensite) are hard but brittle. I can't understand the meaning.
Brittle substances have yield strength closer to breaking strength. If something breaks/fails easily then how can it be hard..?
Pls help me out with some numbers...
 
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It can be hard to compress the material - you need a large force for a tiny change in its shape/volume/...
 
the harder they are the less flex they have and they will break easier to a point. its like mounting something up completely solid. its harder but more likely to break things because it cannot absorb vibration or impact as good. it just takes the force. so a certain force will be lower on something with more flexibility. I think I kind of rambled. but it makes sense to me
 

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