What's the mistake in finding a particular solution for a differential equation?

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The discussion revolves around finding a particular solution for the differential equation y'' - 2ay' + a^2y = e^ax, following the identification of the general solution for the homogeneous part.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the form of the particular solution, questioning why it cannot be Be^ax or Bxe^ax, given that these forms overlap with the homogeneous solution. There is also mention of the modification rule and its implications for determining the correct form of the particular solution.

Discussion Status

Several participants are actively questioning the assumptions regarding the forms of the particular solution. Some suggest that the modification rule may need to be applied, while others express confusion about the overlap with the homogeneous solution. No explicit consensus has been reached, but there is a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants note the constraints imposed by the forms of the solutions already identified, particularly regarding the relationship between the homogeneous and particular solutions. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct application of the modification rule.

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y''-2ay'+a^2y=e^ax

Find a general solution

2. The attempt at a solution

I've found the general solution of the homogeneous eq: Ce^ax+Dxe^ax

Next, I must find a particular solution on the form Be^ax (*), right?

The derivative of (*) is Bae^ax and the 2nd derivative is B(a^2)e^ax

so that

y''-2ay'+a^2y=0

e^ax can never be 0, so I must have made a mistake...
 
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How do you go from the general sol. Ce^ax+Dxe^ax to the particular sol. Be^ax? E.g., why not Bxe^ax?
 
EnumaElish said:
How do you go from the general sol. Ce^ax+Dxe^ax to the particular sol. Be^ax? E.g., why not Bxe^ax?

Bacause r(x)=e^ax, and my textbook tells me that the particular solution is then on the form Be^ax
 
how can the particular soln be of the form Be^ax, when Ce^ax satisfied the homogeneous soln?

also, the particular soln can't be of the form Bxe^ax since Dxe^ax also satisfied the homogeneous soln

therefore, the particular soln must be of the form...?
 
proton said:
how can the particular soln be of the form Be^ax, when Ce^ax satisfied the homogeneous soln?

also, the particular soln can't be of the form Bxe^ax since Dxe^ax also satisfied the homogeneous soln

therefore, the particular soln must be of the form...?

Ah, use of the modification rule twice?

B(x^2)e^ax?
 
I was thinking that Be^ax = Ce^ax + Dxe^ax when B = C and D = 0.
 
My book operates with the so-called modification rule. I got the corect solution this time.
 

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