What's the significance of using a Gaussian wave packet in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the significance of using Gaussian wave packets in Quantum Mechanics, particularly in the context of free particle studies. Participants explore the implications of Gaussian wave packets in relation to the uncertainty principle, comparing them to other types of wave packets such as Lorentzian ones.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Gaussian wave packets are commonly used due to their mathematical convenience and properties related to the uncertainty principle.
  • Others argue that while Gaussian wave packets minimize uncertainty, other wave packet shapes can also yield uncertainty principles, albeit with different constants.
  • A participant mentions that a Gaussian wave packet achieves the smallest possible value of the constant K in the uncertainty relation, while other shapes yield larger values.
  • There is a question about why Gaussian functions minimize uncertainty, with some suggesting that it relates to properties of Fourier analysis.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the deeper physical meaning of why Gaussian functions specifically minimize uncertainty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical convenience of Gaussian wave packets and their role in minimizing uncertainty. However, there is disagreement regarding the necessity of Gaussian packets, as some believe other shapes can also satisfy the uncertainty principle.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the mathematical derivations of the uncertainty principle and the specific properties of different wave packet shapes, which remain unresolved.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals in quantum mechanics, particularly those exploring wave functions and the uncertainty principle.

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Hello,

I have a question about basic Quantum Mechanics.

In free particle study of Quantum Mechanics, why do we use the Gaussian wave packet always? I know that the Fourier Transform of it is also a Gaussian wave packet, but I was thinking, is that what we have selected? or is that what nature has selected? I saw that in Schwabl and Cohen Quantum mechanics books.

I know also that the uncertainty principle is obtained very easily using the standard deviation through Gaussian distributions.

My friend has told me that if we used any other wave packet i.e. Lorentzian or anything else, we will obtain also the uncertainty principle, is that true?

Any answers or discussions about this?

Thanks
 
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TheDestroyer said:
In free particle study of Quantum Mechanics, why do we use the Gaussian wave packet always?

Not always, but it's usually the most convenient, for reasons you seem aquainted with.

I know also that the uncertainty principle is obtained very easily using the standard deviation through Gaussian distributions. My friend has told me that if we used any other wave packet i.e. Lorentzian or anything else, we will obtain also the uncertainty principle, is that true?

Yes. Try it!
You can also show that a gaussian will minimize \Delta x\Delta p.

As an unrelated sidenote, Pople got the Nobel for his innovations in quantum chemistry, one of the more noteworthy ones being to use gaussians (his program Gaussian remains the most used QC software) as a basis set to approximate the wave function, which is computationally convenient, but kind of stupid from a mathematical who-cares-about-convenience point of view.
Brain teaser for the thread: Why is that?
 
TheDestroyer said:
My friend has told me that if we used any other wave packet i.e. Lorentzian or anything else, we will obtain also the uncertainty principle, is that true?

With a wave packet whose shape is different from Gaussian, you can obtain an uncertainty principle, of the form

\Delta x \Delta p = K \hbar

where K is a numerical constant that depends on the precise shape of the packet (Lorentzian or whatever). With a Gaussian packet, you get the smallest possible value of K, which is 1/2.

Allowing for all possible shapes gives you an uncertainty which is the HUP:

\Delta x \Delta p \ge \frac{1}{2} \hbar
 
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Thank you people, the thing is clearer now.

But I still have 1 more question:

Why does Gaussian give the minimum uncertainty? how can we understand that physically or mathematically?

Thanks again :)
 
TheDestroyer said:
Why does Gaussian give the minimum uncertainty? how can we understand that physically or mathematically?

Well, typically you'd first derive the inequality: \Delta x\Delta p\ge\frac{\hbar}{2}
Then you can show that for a gaussian function \Delta x\Delta p=\frac{\hbar}{2}, and so minimizes the uncertainty.
Neither calculation is that hard to do.

Showing that a gaussian is the only form to do so requires a bit more work. But I'm pretty sure you can. Intuitively, given that a sharp peak in one representation is a broad one in the other, it stands to reason that there should be some function which minimizes the product.

I've never looked for any deeper physical 'meaning' in the fact that it's a gaussian that does so. I'm not sure there is one, beyond the fact that it had to be something.
 
Thank you guys, I'm grateful :)
 
TheDestroyer said:
Why does Gaussian give the minimum uncertainty? how can we understand that physically or mathematically?

My understanding is that the proof comes from Fourier analysis, where the uncertainty relation takes the form

\Delta x \Delta k \ge \frac{1}{2}

but I've never looked up the details.
 

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