What's Wrong with My Electrostatic Equilibrium Calculation?

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This is from Sadiku's Elements of electromagnetics. I have come to a result but it's different from that of the book.

Homework Statement



Three identical small spheres of mass m are suspended by threads of negligible
masses
and equal length l from a common point. A charge Q is divided equally
between the spheres
and they come to equilibrium at the corners of a horizontal equilateral
triangle
whose sides are d. Show that

[tex]Q^2 = 12\pi\epsilon_0mgd^3 \begin{bmatrix} l^2 - \frac{d^2}{3}\end{bmatrix}^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]


Homework Equations



[tex]F = \frac{q_1q_2}{4\pi\epsilon_0R^2}\mathbf{a_r}[/tex]

This is all given by the book.

The Attempt at a Solution



The way I see this problem is as follows:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6063/sadikuex4.png

P being the common point, Fe being the force exerted by the other 2 speheres, mg being the force exerted by gravity.
The equilateral triangle would be the top view, while the right triangle is a side view of one of the spheres.

The length of w in the right triangle is:

[tex]d\sqrt{3}[/tex]

from the inscribed circle formula in an equilateral triangle.

If we define alpha as the P angle on the right-angle triangle, and T as the tension on each thread caused by both the electrostatic force and weight of a sphere, then:

[tex]T\sin \alpha = F_e[/tex]

[tex]T\cos \alpha = mg[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\sin \alpha}{\cos \alpha} = \frac{F_e}{mg} (1)[/tex]

But, by the superposition principle:

[tex]F_e = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{q^2}{d^2} + \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{q^2}{d^2} = \frac{1}{2\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{q^2}{d^2} (2)[/tex]

where

[tex]q = \frac{Q}{3} (3)[/tex]

is the charge of an individual sphere.

Now,

[tex]\tan \alpha = \frac{w}{h}[/tex]

[tex]h = \frac{w}{\tan \alpha}[/tex]

[tex]l^2 = \frac{w^2}{\tan^2 \alpha} + w^2 = \frac{3d^2}{\tan^2 \alpha} + 3d^2[/tex]

[tex]\tan^2 \alpha = \frac{3d^2}{l^2 - 3d^2}[/tex]

[tex]\tan \alpha = \sqrt{3}d( l^2 - 3d^2 )^{-\frac{1}{2}} (4)[/tex]

Substituting (2), (3) and (4) in (1) and solving for Q yields:

[tex]Q^2 = 18\sqrt{3}\pi\epsilon_0mgd^3( l^2 - 3d^2 )^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

What's wrong?

Thanks and best regards.
 
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No time to read it all, but you should have [itex]d = \sqrt{3} w[/itex] and not [itex]w = \sqrt{3} d[/itex]
 
jfierro said:
This is from Sadiku's Elements of electromagnetics. I have come to a result but it's different from that of the book.

Homework Statement



Three identical small spheres of mass m are suspended by threads of negligible
masses
and equal length l from a common point. A charge Q is divided equally
between the spheres
and they come to equilibrium at the corners of a horizontal equilateral
triangle
whose sides are d. Show that

[tex]Q^2 = 12\pi\epsilon_0mgd^3 \begin{bmatrix} l^2 - \frac{d^2}{3}\end{bmatrix}^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]


Homework Equations



[tex]F = \frac{q_1q_2}{4\pi\epsilon_0R^2}\mathbf{a_r}[/tex]

This is all given by the book.

The Attempt at a Solution



The way I see this problem is as follows:

[PLAIN]http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6063/sadikuex4.png

P being the common point, Fe being the force exerted by the other 2 speheres, mg being the force exerted by gravity.
The equilateral triangle would be the top view, while the right triangle is a side view of one of the spheres.

The length of w in the right triangle is:

[tex]d\sqrt{3}[/tex]

from the inscribed circle formula in an equilateral triangle.

If we define alpha as the P angle on the right-angle triangle, and T as the tension on each thread caused by both the electrostatic force and weight of a sphere, then:

[tex]T\sin \alpha = F_e[/tex]

[tex]T\cos \alpha = mg[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\sin \alpha}{\cos \alpha} = \frac{F_e}{mg} (1)[/tex]

But, by the superposition principle:

[tex]F_e = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{q^2}{d^2} + \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{q^2}{d^2} = \frac{1}{2\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{q^2}{d^2} (2)[/tex]

where

[tex]q = \frac{Q}{3} (3)[/tex]

is the charge of an individual sphere.

Now,

[tex]\tan \alpha = \frac{w}{h}[/tex]

[tex]h = \frac{w}{\tan \alpha}[/tex]

[tex]l^2 = \frac{w^2}{\tan^2 \alpha} + w^2 = \frac{3d^2}{\tan^2 \alpha} + 3d^2[/tex]

[tex]\tan^2 \alpha = \frac{3d^2}{l^2 - 3d^2}[/tex]

[tex]\tan \alpha = \sqrt{3}d( l^2 - 3d^2 )^{-\frac{1}{2}} (4)[/tex]

Substituting (2), (3) and (4) in (1) and solving for Q yields:

[tex]Q^2 = 18\sqrt{3}\pi\epsilon_0mgd^3( l^2 - 3d^2 )^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

What's wrong?

Thanks and best regards.

not understand how you get d=(3)^(1/2)
 
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w=d(3)^(1/2)
 
w is not d*(3^1/2)
its d/(3^1/2)

in the picture youre looking at the pyramid from the top..
 

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got the solution...thanks
 
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Again looking at the pyramid from the top we see that the horizontal component of the force due to the two charges gets canceled out...
 

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in the end use the followin equation

tsin a/tcos a= Fe/mg
 

saadqureshi said:
in the end use the followin equation

tsin a/tcos a= Fe/mg
gr8 work qureshi...
 
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thank you inti
 
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Thanks, I got my answer..
 
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Suggestion, its better to use (I) and (IV) in equation labelling than (1) (4) for it looks like it is a scalar multiplication
 

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