When Will I Need Math Software in My Studies?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the necessity and timing of using mathematical software in studies, particularly for mathematics majors. Participants explore the relevance of various programs such as Maple, Mathematica, MATLAB, and Sage in both pure and applied mathematics contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that they have not yet needed mathematical software in their studies and inquires about when it becomes necessary.
  • Another participant suggests that "pure" math students use software less frequently than "applied" math students, emphasizing that advanced proof writing in pure mathematics may not require such tools.
  • A different participant counters that certain areas of pure mathematics do involve significant calculations and mentions software options like Magma and Sage, which can assist in these calculations.
  • One participant recommends starting to use software like Wolfram Alpha, Maple, or Mathematica early on, highlighting their capabilities for both symbolic and numerical calculations, while noting that MATLAB is primarily for numerical studies.
  • There is mention of Sage as a free alternative to Maple and Mathematica, along with Octave as a free MATLAB-like program.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and timing of using mathematical software, with some arguing that it is less relevant in pure mathematics while others highlight its importance in certain contexts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall necessity of these tools across different mathematical disciplines.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various software programs and their applications without reaching a consensus on which is superior or more appropriate for specific mathematical tasks. There is also a lack of agreement on the role of software in pure versus applied mathematics.

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Hi all. Ok, so I'm a mathematics major, but I'm only so far as my first linear algebra course right now. I have not had any need to use Maple or Mathematica or Mathlab or a calculator for that matter.

So, I'm curious WHEN I might have to start using these programs (what level math).

Also, is one program better for abstract and one better for applied? I'm not really sure what the pro's and con's are to each program.

I have used the Wolfram Alpha site to check homework answers before. That's about it.
 
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I think that "pure" math folks tend to rarely use these while "applied" math folks tend to use these more. The further you go in "pure" math the more proofs and the fewer tools you seem to use.

If someone could produce an easy to use and very dependable tool that would help students become very skilled at writing proofs in their first proof class and would easily and dependably check more advanced proofs for flaws or possible gaps in reasoning then this might very slowly begin to change the culture in "pure" mathematics. Unfortunately, none of those are easy to use or accepted yet.
 
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Hi,

It would be nice to start right now, just like you're doing with Wolfram Alpha.

Maple (or a second choice of mine would be Mathematica) for a mathematician. You can do both symbolic (where x or y or "the parameters" live as they are) or numerical (where all parameters have numerical values) calculations with Maple and Mathematica. MATLAB is mainly for numerical studies, its symbolic engine is not as good as Maple or Mathematica. Sage is also a very nice and free program if you do not want to pay for Maple or Mathematica, there is also a free MATLAB-like program, Octave which is I think very good.
 

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