When will the two trains collide?

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The problem involves two trains approaching each other on a straight track, initially 7,500 meters apart, each with an initial speed of 10 m/s and accelerating towards each other at a rate of 0.025 m/s². The objective is to determine when the trains will collide.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to find the collision time, noting the challenge of missing variables such as final velocity and time. There is a suggestion to clarify the initial velocities of the trains and their directions, with some questioning the appropriateness of the equations being used.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the initial velocities and directions of the trains. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of different symbols for each train's velocity and the need to consider their differing directions.

Contextual Notes

There is a constraint that participants are limited to specific kinematic equations for their calculations. Additionally, there is confusion regarding the initial conditions of the trains, particularly whether one should be considered to have a negative velocity due to its direction.

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Homework Statement


Two trains approach each other on a straight level track: one from the east and the other from the west. Initially they are 7,500 meters apart and have a spray of 10meters/s with respect to the ground. If both locomotives accelerate toward the east at a constant rate of .025 meters/s^2, in how many minutes will they collide?

Homework Equations


X=X0+V0t+1/2at^2
V=V0+at
V^2=V0^2+2a(X-X0)

The Attempt at a Solution


For our class we're only allowed to use these equations. At dust I thought it would be simple to just find X but I forgot we weren't given final velocity. I'm missing v,x, and t. I tried plugging the numbers into the last equation to find X, but I just got v=10m/s +2(.025m/s)(X-0) or for the other train v=10m/s +2(.025m/s)(X-7500) I always end up with two missing parts. I might be over looking something, or have been spending too much time on homework and just need to sleep it out. Please let me know if I'm missing something! Thank you so much.
 
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I meant a speed of 10m/s, sorry
 
Rebecca Berger said:

Homework Statement


Two trains approach each other on a straight level track: one from the east and the other from the west. Initially they are 7,500 meters apart and have a spray of 10meters/s with respect to the ground. If both locomotives accelerate toward the east at a constant rate of .025 meters/s^2, in how many minutes will they collide?

Homework Equations


X=X0+V0t+1/2at^2
V=V0+at
V^2=V0^2+2a(X-X0)

The Attempt at a Solution


For our class we're only allowed to use these equations. At dust I thought it would be simple to just find X but I forgot we weren't given final velocity. I'm missing v,x, and t. I tried plugging the numbers into the last equation to find X, but I just got v=10m/s +2(.025m/s)(X-0) or for the other train v=10m/s +2(.025m/s)(X-7500) I always end up with two missing parts. I might be over looking something, or have been spending too much time on homework and just need to sleep it out. Please let me know if I'm missing something! Thank you so much.
I don't see how using that equation will help you. It doesn't have time in it, and you don't have any direct information about how the velocities are related except at t = 0. Also, you did not square the velocities.

You should use a different symbol for velocity of each train.

Isn't it true that v0 is different for each train? Are they going the same direction initially?
 
SammyS said:
I don't see how using that equation will help you. It doesn't have time in it, and you don't have any direct information about how the velocities are related except at t = 0. Also, you did not square the velocities.

You should use a different symbol for velocity of each train.

Isn't it true that v0 is different for each train? Are they going the same direction initially?
I asked my physics professor that question, he said they're going different directions but one is slowing down but the other is speeding up, but they both start at 10m/s, I would have thought one would be going a negative velocity. But what you're saying is that I do use the second equation, but I just plugged in the numbers wrong?
 
Rebecca Berger said:
I asked my physics professor that question, he said they're going different directions but one is slowing down but the other is speeding up, but they both start at 10m/s, I would have thought one would be going a negative velocity. But what you're saying is that I do use the second equation, but I just plugged in the numbers wrong?
I would not use the second equation either.

Yes, one velocity should be negative.
 

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