Where Can I Find a List of Top HEP Graduate Programs in the US?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around finding resources for identifying top graduate programs in High Energy Physics (HEP) in the United States. Participants are seeking both rankings and more accessible options for schools that may not be in the top tier but still offer strong programs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding specific lists of HEP graduate programs and seeks recommendations.
  • Another participant shares a link to a rankings site but cautions against placing too much weight on the rankings.
  • A different participant questions the criteria and methodology behind the rankings provided in the shared link.
  • One suggestion includes using the American Institute of Physics' gradschoolshopper.com, which allows filtering by research field without providing rankings.
  • Another participant mentions the physicsgre.com forum as a resource where applicants share their experiences, grades, and acceptance results, which could help gauge program competitiveness.
  • Several participants emphasize the need for more realistic school options beyond prestigious institutions like Berkeley, MIT, or Harvard.
  • One participant advises consulting with an academic advisor for tailored recommendations based on individual academic records and interests.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a broader list of HEP programs beyond the top-ranked schools. However, there is no consensus on the best resources or methods for identifying suitable programs.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on the criteria used for rankings and the subjective nature of what constitutes a "realistic" school for applicants.

d3nat
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Hi,

I've been trying to find a list somewhere of some of the better HEP graduate programs in the US. I can't find anything specific to HEP though.

Does anyone know where I may be able to find this information (online)?
I know the some of the more prestigious schools have some of the best programs, and while I'll still apply to a few of these (2013 Fall), I also want to apply to some that I know I'll have a shot of getting into.

Thanks for the help.
 
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Nabeshin said:
I wouldn't put too much weight in the actual rankings here, but here's a list to at least get you started:
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankings...ls/top-science-schools/string-theory-rankings


Thanks, browsed that and it was pretty much what I expected.
Looking to see if anyone might know of a more detailed list that doesn't only include the best programs out there because, as much as I'd love to be able to, my odds of getting into one of the best grad programs are much much lower than getting into a really good one, but not so top tenish.

Thanks though!
 
Try http://gradschoolshopper.com/ which is run by the American Institute of Physics. It doesn't have rankings, but it does allow you to filter schools according to research field. Select both "Particles and Fields" and "High Energy Physics." Most HEP programs seem to be listed under the first designation, including U of Michigan where I got my degree in experimental HEP.
 
Another helpful resource is the physicsgre.com forum. Every year, there's a large thread for applicants where they list their grades, scores, research, etc. and where they applied and were accepted. You can compare the people who listed high energy as their area of application, where they applied, and where they were accepted to get an idea. See for example the most recent 2012 thread:
http://www.physicsgre.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4274
 
d3nat said:
Looking to see if anyone might know of a more detailed list that doesn't only include the best programs out there

I'm pretty much in the same boat as d3nat. I've thoroughly searched through the "prestigious school list" for HEP (and PF, PGRE.com, and others), but I need some suggestions for more realistic schools. As enticing as applying to Berkeley, MIT, or Harvard may sound, I need some more suitable options to fill up my list.

Thanks.
 
bohr-ing said:
I'm pretty much in the same boat as d3nat. I've thoroughly searched through the "prestigious school list" for HEP (and PF, PGRE.com, and others), but I need some suggestions for more realistic schools. As enticing as applying to Berkeley, MIT, or Harvard may sound, I need some more suitable options to fill up my list.

Thanks.

The most realistic advice I can give beyond what I've already said is to talk to your advisor (assuming they're in the same field, else find someone who is). They can give you a much more in-depth break down of which schools have strong programs in subfield x than any ranking list could. Presumably, such a person is also familiar with your academic record and would be much more helpful than anyone here to give a realistic assessment of where you're likely to succeed.
 

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