Where Can I Find an Affordable Industrial Grade Return-to-Center Potentiometer?

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The discussion revolves around finding an affordable industrial-grade return-to-center potentiometer, specifically in the 5-10K range. Participants explore various suppliers, product options, and the feasibility of alternative solutions, including custom designs and digital alternatives.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding inexpensive options for a single-axis return-to-center potentiometer, citing high prices for available products.
  • Another participant shares links to potential suppliers but questions whether the suggested products have a return-to-center function.
  • Clarifications arise regarding the definition of return-to-center, with one participant describing a need for a spring-driven mechanism.
  • Some participants suggest designing a custom solution using a spring around a shaft, although there are concerns about the practicality and liability of such an approach.
  • Digital alternatives are proposed as potentially cheaper and more appealing, but one participant notes that a digital solution is not suitable for their specific application.
  • A participant finds a suitable product that meets their requirements but is surprised by its high price, attributing it to the precision of the spring return function.
  • There is discussion about simulating the potentiometer function in a prototype and allowing the customer to decide on the final product, considering budget constraints and lead times for delivery.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific product or solution, with multiple competing views on the feasibility of custom designs versus off-the-shelf options. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to meet the requirements.

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Participants express uncertainty about the availability of products that meet specific criteria, and there are limitations regarding budget and lead times for delivery. The discussion also highlights the complexity of achieving the desired functionality in a cost-effective manner.

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Does anyone happen to know a good supplier for an inexpensive, single-axis, return-to-center potentiometer, in the 5-10K range? Maybe I just keep missing it, but I am finding surpringly few options. What I am finding is surprisingly expensive. For example, Allied carries a rocker pot made by ETI.
http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=5229600

But, wow, $148 a piece? It needs to be industrial grade, but even for an industrial grade pot, that seems pretty expensive. Ideally it would have a petcock-style actuator rather than a rocker.

In a pinch I could probably live with a five position r-t-c switch, but I really wanted to do this with analog.
 
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I don't know how much these cost but here you go.
http://www.p3america.com/pp/scb50,fp50.htm"
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http://www.p3america.com/pp/scx.htm"
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dlgoff said:
I don't know how much these cost but here you go.
http://www.p3america.com/pp/scb50,fp50.htm"
scb50pp.jpg

http://www.p3america.com/pp/scx.htm"
scx50pp.jpg

I don't see anything indicating a return-to-center function?
 
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Well they claim to be 360 degree.

edit: Maybe I don't understand what you mean by return to center. I was thinking 0 ohm to Max ohm then 0 ohm after 360 degree turn. i.e. back to where you started.
 
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dlgoff said:
Well they claim to be 360 degree.

Ah, I think we have slight misunderstanding. I need a pot that has a spring-driven return to the center position. Note that the rocker pot always returns to a predefined null state when not manually actuated. It would be same way a joystick operates but only in one axis... and industrial grade.
 
Oh I see. Never heard of such a thing. Maybe you could design one yourself?

edit: seems like a spring around the shaft of a single turn pot might work?
 
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dlgoff said:
Oh I see. Never heard of such a thing. Maybe you could design one yourself?

Yuck! But I am starting to wonder. It wouldn't take much and I can easily allow for a wide predefined deadband in the signal to allow for offsets, but I would by far prefer to buy something off the shelf.

I wouldn't even mind the price of the rocker pot so much if it was the desired petcock design... but, still, that is spendy for a pot. I really expected to find something for well under $100.
 
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I added an edit to my above post while you were posting I think. Could you get a cheap pot and put a spring around the shaft to bring it back to center?
 
Yuck! I may have to but am open to other options. I have a few days before I have to decide. I would almost prefer to go with the rocker rather than something I have to rig. Ultimately someone else buys the pot, but if I make it, I assume additional liability unnecessarily.

Thanks dlgoff. That may be the best option but still hoping for a better one...
 
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Have you considered doing it all digitally? It could cost a lot less and would be much more sexy!
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Have you considered doing it all digitally? It could cost a lot less and would be much more sexy!

Thanks. Good idea, but not appropriate for this application. We had one analog port left open after many months of design, and I realized that we could use that to add a valuable feature. I'm limited to one analog input having 12 bit resolution over 0-10 vdc.
 
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Look what I've found.
http://www.precisionsales.com/joysticks/images/saj2515g.gif
"[URL SAJ2515G- Spring return to center with round G knob
[/URL]
 
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dlgoff said:
Look what I've found.
http://www.precisionsales.com/joysticks/images/saj2515g.gif
"[URL SAJ2515G- Spring return to center with round G knob
[/URL]

BINGO! Don't know how I missed it, but thank you. I was sure someone must make this.

It comes in exactly the right style. Wunderbar!
 
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Yikes! $300. I guess my expectations were way out of line. Apparently the reason for the high price is the precision spring return function. This is what worried me about making our own; repeatability on the return is probably an issue.
 
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Dang. So what's the verdict? Going to use it? I would guess not?
 
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dlgoff said:
Dang. So what's the verdict? Going to use it? I would guess not?

I think I will simulate the function on the prototype and let the customer make the call on the final product. If they want the added function, which I'm sure they will, the price won't matter. I just don't want to pocket the cost indefinitely. There is no time for a budget adder approval.

What matters is that I have the component identified with price in hand. No problem. Thanks again.

PS. Even if I chose to pocket the cost, the pot wouldn't be delivered before the product handoff occurs next Monday, for evaluation. There is about a one-week lead time. They probably only make them on demand.
 
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