Where Can I Find Ferrite-Impregnated Silicone or Epoxy for RF Noise Suppression?

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The discussion centers around finding ferrite-impregnated silicone or epoxy for RF noise suppression in a PCB within a consumer product. Participants explore various materials and methods for addressing RF noise, particularly in the 350MHz band, and share their experiences and recommendations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a source for ferrite-impregnated silicone or epoxy to mitigate RF noise from a PCB.
  • Another participant argues that ferrite is not necessary and suggests using an electrically conductive material instead, providing a link to a specific product.
  • Some participants note that ferrite is effective for RF energy absorption but may not be suitable for all applications, particularly in terms of grounding and potential shorting issues.
  • There is a suggestion to apply silicone first and then coat it with EMI shielding, although concerns about grounding and shorting are raised.
  • Discussion includes the role of ferrite beads in preventing cables from radiating RF noise and the importance of maintaining metal in enclosures for effective RF suppression.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and effectiveness of ferrite materials versus electrically conductive alternatives. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to mitigate RF noise.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about the properties of materials and their applications, but there are no settled definitions or consensus on the best solution for the RF noise issue.

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I have a PCB inside of a consumer product that our company does not make. It is emitting a great deal of RF noise in the 350MHz band. I am looking to find a silicone or epoxy with ferrite impregnated in it.

Where can I get it?

I won't be able to get the company that makes the board to change the design in the near future, they are too big and too slow to respond. I have reverse engineered the board and constructed a schematic. I have exhaustively tried various decoupling methods to kill the noise but have not found a solution that is suitable.

Thanks
 
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You don't need ferrite, you need an electrically conductive material. Ferrite is great for magnetic shielding, but is terrible for RF EMI. Try something like this:

http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/841.html?PHPSESSID=d41c883dc3548ebc1362bc3c166c5db7

Be sure you ground all of the indvidual coated parts to the supply ground either with wires or spring-loaded grounding fingers.
 
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Ferrite is used for their RF lossy energy absorbing properties.

Check out - I didn't have to go very for for a good explanation
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=183148

If I put the EMI shielding on the board it will
1 - require that I connect it to ground
2 - short everything that I pour it on

I know, I know, I can put silicone on and then paint the silicone with the EMI shielding. I fact, I have a can of it right next to me, I'll try it out

But I still would like a source for ferrite silicone or ferrite powder
 
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Ferrite is used for their RF lossy energy absorbing properties.

Check out - I didn't have to go very for for a good explanation
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=183148

If I put the EMI shielding on the board it will
1 - require that I connect it to ground
2 - short everything that I pour it on

I know, I know, I can put silicone on and then paint the silicone with the EMI shielding. I fact, I have a can of it right next to me, I'll try it out

But I still would like a source for ferrite silicone or ferrite powder

No, ferrite beads are meant to keep long cables from acting like antenna and radiating the RF noise. In a way, it's meant to plug the RF leaks (from the cables coming out of your shielded enclosure). The stuff Negitron linked to is meant to coat the inside of a plastic enclosure, thus leaving enough metal that there's RF suppression due to skin-depth effects. Or you could just use a metal enclosure.
 

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