Where Can I Find Software for Calculating Tensor Loop Integrals?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding software or packages suitable for calculating tensor loop integrals, specifically of rank four and involving three and four vertices, within the context of high energy physics. Participants explore various software options and methodologies related to tensor and scalar integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about software used by CERN or other particle accelerators for calculating tensor loop integrals.
  • Another participant suggests exploring high energy physics software projects hosted at HepForge as potential resources.
  • There is a discussion about the preference for tensor integrals versus reduced scalar integrals, with one participant noting that typically a reduction to scalar integrals is performed before numerical solutions are applied using packages like OneLOop or looptools.
  • One participant mentions the advantages of OneLOop, including its capability to provide integrals in dimensional regularization and handle complex masses, while looptools is noted for its compatibility with Mathematica.
  • A participant expresses the need for a database of coefficients for reduction, indicating that manual reduction is impractical due to the complexity of their terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of tensor integrals versus scalar integrals, as there are differing views on the preferred approach to solving these integrals.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the availability of specific databases for coefficients and the practicality of manual versus automated reduction methods.

Daniel Reyes
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Hi there!

I was wondering if anybody knows what package or software CERN of other particle accelerators use to calculate their theoretical predictions. I need specifically tensor loop integrals of up to rank four and of three and four vertices.

Thanks!
 
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Quite a few high energy physics software projects are hosted at HepForge. Maybe one of those projects will meet your needs.

And Welcome to Physics Forums!
 
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websterling said:
Quite a few high energy physics software projects are hosted at HepForge. Maybe one of those projects will meet your needs.

And Welcome to Physics Forums!

Thanks websterling. I'll check that out!
 
Hello, is there a reason why you want the tensor integrals rather than the reduced scalar integrals?

Typically one always does a reduction to scalar integrals and then uses one of the packages like OneLOop or looptools to solve these numerically. OneLOop is particularly nice since it provides the integrals in dim reg and returns the 1/eps 1/eps^2 pieces and is useable with complex masses. looptools can be easily used with Mathematica.
 
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RGevo said:
Hello, is there a reason why you want the tensor integrals rather than the reduced scalar integrals?

Typically one always does a reduction to scalar integrals and then uses one of the packages like OneLOop or looptools to solve these numerically. OneLOop is particularly nice since it provides the integrals in dim reg and returns the 1/eps 1/eps^2 pieces and is useable with complex masses. looptools can be easily used with Mathematica.

Actually, that's what I need but I have a lot of terms so the reduction by hand is out of the question. Maybe there's a data base where I can find all the coefficients for the reduction so I can implement a program?
 

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