Where do I start with self learning linear algebra

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for self-learning linear algebra, particularly for a physics major seeking a balance between intuition and rigor in mathematical study. Participants share their experiences and suggest various textbooks suitable for beginners in pure mathematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for an introductory book on linear algebra that provides both intuition and rigor, indicating a preference for avoiding "cookbook" approaches.
  • Several participants recommend specific textbooks, including "Linear Algebra" by Serge Lang, "Linear Algebra" by Friedberg, Insel, and Spence, and Meyer's "Matrix Analysis and Applied Linear Algebra," noting their varying degrees of rigor and intuition.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of different editions of textbooks, with one participant suggesting that older editions may suffice.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of exercises in textbooks, with one participant sharing a negative experience with Spivak's calculus book and questioning the feasibility of skipping hard exercises.
  • Another participant mentions the utility of homework-help sites like Cramster for self-study, especially when lacking external support.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of different mathematical topics based on the type of physics one intends to pursue, suggesting that knowledge of matrices and linear systems is foundational.
  • Some participants propose additional resources, such as Schaum's outline on linear algebra and other advanced texts like "Linear Algebra Done Wrong" by Sergei Treil, which are available for free online.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of foundational mathematics for physics majors, suggesting a curriculum that includes calculus, ordinary differential equations, partial differential equations, and linear algebra.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational mathematics for physics majors and share various textbook recommendations. However, there is no consensus on which specific book is the best starting point, as preferences vary based on individual learning styles and prior knowledge.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their familiarity with matrices and linear systems, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect their ability to engage with recommended texts. Additionally, the discussion reflects varying levels of comfort with mathematical rigor and intuition among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for undergraduate physics majors or anyone interested in self-studying linear algebra, particularly those seeking a balance between intuitive understanding and rigorous mathematical foundations.

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Hi. I am a physics major and Id probably go with mathematical/theoretical physics path.

Where do I start with self learning linear algebra? I'm good with proofs but I'm not comfortable with learning math without intuition or motivation behind the axioms. Still, I hate math without rigor (cookbook engineer math).

I'm looking for an intro book for linear algebra. Thanks. May be my first exposure to pure math excluding intro to proofs.
 
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Try to get "linear algebra" by Serge Lang. It's an excellent book to study from.

Another good book is "linear algebra" by Friedberg, Insel and Spence.
 
Very nice intuitive approach to algebra provides Meyer's Matrix Analysis and Applied Linear Algebra. It is great for intuition but as the title indicates, it is far from being a rigorous mathematical text.
 
Hi micromass. Which edition should I get?
 
Headacheguy said:
Hi micromass. Which edition should I get?

Doesn't matter. If you can find a cheap old edition, then it'll probably be fine.
 
Thanks! As I've said, this is my first exposure to pure math. Is it okay if I can't at first answer the exercises? That is, can I skip the hard exercises? This happened a lot in Spivak and I just gave up on the book. Kind of a downer.
 
I'm no expert but... If I were to buy a textbook to self-study from, I would check a homework-help site like Cramster and see whether that book is covered. Since you won't have anyone to really help you with the problems, having Cramster go over problems step-by-step can help a lot.
 
Headacheguy said:
Thanks! As I've said, this is my first exposure to pure math. Is it okay if I can't at first answer the exercises? That is, can I skip the hard exercises? This happened a lot in Spivak and I just gave up on the book. Kind of a downer.

Was Spivak your first encounter to calculus?? It really shouldn't be the first calc book you study. It's more something like a second exposure to calculus/intro real analysis book.

It's ok to skip the hard exercises, but you should try them nevertheless. Ask for help if you really can't do them. This forum has a lot of opportunities for help.
 
Yes it was. I hope Lang's would be different. And its been a year since my first dreadful take on Spivak.
 
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Headacheguy said:
Yes it was. I hope Lang's would be different. And its been a year since my first dreadful take on Spivak.

I take it, that it's your first encounter with linear algebra as well?? That is: do you know something about matrices, determinants and linear systems?? If you don't know anything about them, then perhaps another book would be good. Meyers book, mentioned earlier here, would be a nice first book.
 
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Hey micro, since I've got your attention, I'd like to ask some more. I'm trying to get as good an education in math as I can cause its fun and exciting and I need it. I wouldn't be able to take any course in math (besides math methods, which isn't really math).

I've taken pre calc and methods single variable calculus. I'll be taking a course on DE on November. The class will consist only of physics majors - so It would probably be non-mathy.

Right now my plan is to learn linear algebra and will relearn calculus with Spivak and then use Fleming of Spivak on Manifolds for several variable calculus. Would this be okay for a physics major self-learning math?

Might be the case that all this math theory would be useless in physics. Still, I get the feeling that if I'd be using math, then, at least I should use it properly.
 
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Whether it is enough highly depends on what kind of physics you want to do. For example, if you want to study general relativity, then courses on topology and differential geometry would also help. If you want to study quantum mechanics rigorously, then courses on functional analysis would be good.

So if you know what kind of physics you want to do, only then can we say what math you need.
 
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Ugh, yes. I don't know anything about matrices and stuff. What a waste.. I found Lang to be quite entertaining. And the Mayer book is large.
 
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Headacheguy said:
Ugh, yes. I don't know anything about matrices and stuff. What a waste.. I found Lang to be quite entertaining. And the Mayer book is large.

You can always get Schaum's outline on linear algebra. It's usually easy with lots of nice exercises. I think that would be a nice first exposure.
 
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I mean, for now as an undergraduate, without any particular field in mind, i.e. the maths that all physics majors (who will probably go with theory) should know.
 
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Headacheguy said:
I mean, for now as an undergraduate, without any particular field in mind, i.e. the maths that all physics majors (who will probably go with theory) should know.

Calculus (single-variable and multi-variable), ODE's, PDE's and linear algebra. That seems to be the bare minimum.

Try to get hold of Boas "mathematics mathods in the physical sciences". It might be nonrigorous but it's an excellent book and contains everything a physics major should know.
 
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Okay, thanks, micromass. Guess I'll first study the Boas book to get a feel for the maths.
 
  • #18
if you want a slightly more advanced first exposure to linear algebra, try Linear Algebra by Jim Hefferon or Linear Algebra Done Wrong by Sergei Treil. Both are free online from the authors' websites.
 
  • #19
In my view, no better place to start than Klaus Jänich's "Linear Algebra".

This is the translation into English of one of the common textbooks for the first semester of first year at German universities for students studying maths and/or physics.

It is thoroughly modern in its approach. The author is a master expositor. He explains concepts with simplicity and great clarity, showing how linear algebra is used.

There are separate exercises for physics students.

It is published by Springer in its Universitext series.
 

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