Where does the Berry phase of $\pi$ come from in a topological insulat

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the origin of the Berry phase of $\pi$ in topological insulators, particularly in the context of quantum spin Hall states. Participants explore the relationship between the Berry connection and the Berry phase, as well as the implications of time-reversal symmetry on these concepts.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant discusses the Berry connection and its integration over the Brillouin zone to define the Chern parity, questioning how to demonstrate that surface states must have a $\pi$ Berry phase, potentially invoking time-reversal symmetry.
  • Another participant references a source that explains the non-degenerate spin states of surface electrons in topological insulators, suggesting that time-reversal symmetry leads to a spin rotation that results in a $\pi$ Berry phase when an electron circles a Dirac point.
  • The original poster reiterates their question about relating the Berry connection to the Berry phase without invoking charge polarization, emphasizing the need for a direct argument involving time-reversal symmetry.
  • A later reply asks for clarification on the definition of the Berry connection and the specific regions involved in the integration, indicating a need for more precise definitions in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best approach to demonstrate the relationship between the Berry connection and the Berry phase, with some proposing explanations based on time-reversal symmetry while others seek clarification on definitions and specific cases. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of the Berry connection and the regions A and B in the context of the Chern parity equation, which remain unspecified and may affect the clarity of the arguments presented.

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The Berry connection and the Berry phase should be related. Now for a topological insulator (TI) (or to be more precise, for a quantum spin hall state, but I think the Chern parities are calculated in the same fashion for a 3D TI). I can follow the argument up to defining the Chern parity $\nu$, where the Berry connection $\textbf{A}$ is explicitly within this equation where it gets integrated over half the Brillouin zone:

$\nu = \frac{1}{2\pi} \left( \oint\limits_{\partial(A + B)} d\textbf{k} \cdot \textbf{A} - \iint\limits_{A + B} dk_x dk_y \nabla \times \textbf{A} \right) \text{mod } 2 $


Is there a simple way to show that the surface states must have a $\pi$ Berry phase? Maybe
by invoking time-reversal symmetry on this equation?

For the Integer Quantum Hall Effect the conductance was used to show how the Berry phase is connected to the Berry connection. But
I would like to avoid using charge polarization, I just want to see the direct relation between the Berry connection on the BZ and the resulting Berry phase of the wavefunctions that is exactly equal to $\pi$, e.g. a fermion must undergo two complete rotations to acquire a phase of $2\pi$. Is there a simple argument to relate this equation with the time reversal contraint to the Berry phase?
 
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I saw this very nice question a week or two ago and I was hoping a real expert would weigh in because I am studying topological states of matter and have some questions myself. Anyway, I just found a simple explanation of the π Berry phase that hopefully answers your question. From http://arxiv.org/abs/1002.3895,

Unlike an ordinary metal, which has up and down spins at every point on the Fermi surface, the surface states are not spin degenerate. Since T symmetry requires that states at momenta k and -k have opposite spin, the spin must rotate with k around the Fermi surface, as shown in Fig. 7(b). This leads to a nontrivial Berry phase acquired by an electron going around the Fermi circle. T symmetry requires that this phase be 0 or π. When an electron circles a Dirac point, its spin rotates by 2π, which leads to a π Berry phase.
 
Just nicifying the original question (OP, use two hashes instead of the dollar symbol to enter latex):

The Berry connection and the Berry phase should be related. Now for a topological insulator (TI) (or to be more precise, for a quantum spin hall state, but I think the Chern parities are calculated in the same fashion for a 3D TI). I can follow the argument up to defining the Chern parity ##\nu##, where the Berry connection ##\textbf{A}## is explicitly within this equation where it gets integrated over half the Brillouin zone:

\nu = \frac{1}{2\pi} \left( \oint\limits_{\partial(A + B)} d\textbf{k} \cdot \textbf{A} - \iint\limits_{A + B} dk_x dk_y \nabla \times \textbf{A} \right) \text{mod } 2Is there a simple way to show that the surface states must have a ##\pi## Berry phase? Maybe
by invoking time-reversal symmetry on this equation?

For the Integer Quantum Hall Effect the conductance was used to show how the Berry phase is connected to the Berry connection. But
I would like to avoid using charge polarization, I just want to see the direct relation between the Berry connection on the BZ and the resulting Berry phase of the wavefunctions that is exactly equal to ##\pi##, e.g. a fermion must undergo two complete rotations to acquire a phase of ##2\pi##. Is there a simple argument to relate this equation with the time reversal contraint to the Berry phase?
 
Are you referring to a particular article? How is A defined exactly in your case? What are the regions A and B?
 

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