Where does the force come from?

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The discussion centers on the interaction between a circular non-conducting ring and a changing magnetic field, specifically addressing the forces at play when a charge is present on the ring. It is established that according to Lenz's Law, the changing magnetic field (dB/dt) induces an electromotive force (EMF) that causes the ring to rotate and generate a current opposing the change in the magnetic field. The conversation clarifies that both electric (E) and magnetic (B) fields are involved, as Faraday's Law states that a changing magnetic field induces an electric field, which is crucial for understanding the forces acting on the charge in the ring.

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We have a circular non conducting ring placed in a uniform magnetic field with its direction perpendicular to the plane of the ring. There is a charge present on the ring. The field changes with a rate dB/dt. By lenz law we know that the ring will start rotating to form a current that will oppose change in B.

But if we apply basic rules of physics - Where does this force required to move the ring come from?:eek: there is only magnetic field which cannot affect a rest charge.
 
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ashishsinghal said:
The field changes with a rate dB/dt. ... there is only magnetic field which cannot affect a rest charge.
By Faradays law, if you have a changing B field this will induce an E field. So it is not correct that there is only a B field, there is both E and B.
 

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