Where to find a schematic for a push-button combination cypher lock

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and construction of a mechanical push-button combination lock. Participants explore the mechanics involved, seek schematics or diagrams, and share ideas on simplifying the design process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for schematics or diagrams for a mechanical push-button combination lock, indicating a lack of available resources.
  • Another participant suggests that creativity could lead to a unique design, questioning the desired complexity of the lock.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of simplicity in design while acknowledging the challenges posed by the mechanical components.
  • One reply argues that achieving the same effectiveness as an electronic lock with a mechanical design may not be possible, offering a suggestion to use clear plastic sheets for visualizing the mechanism.
  • A later response clarifies that the focus is solely on mechanical locks, appreciating the suggestion about using clear paper for design purposes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges of designing a mechanical lock, but there are differing views on the feasibility of matching the effectiveness of electronic locks with mechanical designs. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mechanics and schematics needed.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the complexity of the mechanical components and the difficulty in visualizing their interactions, highlighting potential limitations in available resources and design clarity.

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im trying to build a cypher-type push-button non-electrical combination lock. the problem is there are no threads/schematics/drawings/specs/diagrams that actually instruct how the push button mechanics work. is there somewhere i could be looking for a schematic?
 
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You could be creative, try coming up with your own design.

Given it's mechanical, it's going to have a fixed unlock pattern. Shouldn't take much to come up with something that would do it.

How complex do you want the design to be?
 
of course, i want the design as simple as possible, but just as effective as the push-button type lock. the easier the design, the less pain in the rear building it i am being creative, but there are so many moving parts in one of those locks, it's difficult to keep track of what-is-doing-what when i draw it up on paper.
 
If you mean just as effective as an electronic lock, you'll never get that.

I'd recommend clear plastic sheet to draw on. You can draw the mechanism for each button and layer them so you can see how they fit together / interact. But, with the added advantage of being able to see each individual one.
 
i don't care much for the electronic locks. the mechanical ones are the type I'm trying to duplicate. thanks for the idea about the clear paper.
 

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