Where to place a third charge so it experiences no force

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The problem involves two point charges, one positive and one negative, placed along the x-axis. The objective is to determine the position of a third charge such that it experiences no net force due to the other two charges. The charges are specified with their magnitudes and positions, and the relevant equation for the force between point charges is provided.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the correct distances to be used in the force equations. There is an exploration of the implications of placing the third charge between the first two charges, with some participants questioning the assumptions about the forces acting on it.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and corrections to each other's interpretations of the problem. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the initial setup of the equations, and some guidance is offered regarding the signs of the charges and the distances involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the third charge cannot be placed between the first two charges due to the nature of the forces acting on it. There is also a mention of a typo in the equations presented, which may affect the understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A point charge of 5.6 microcoulombs is placed at the origin (x=0) of a coordinate system, and another charge of -1.9 microcouloumbs is placed on the x-axis at .29m. Where on the axis can a third charge be placed so that it experiences no charge?

q1= 5.6 E-6
q2= -1.9 E-6
d= .29m

Homework Equations


F= k*(q1*q2)/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Fnet = F1,3 + F2,3
Fnet = 0
F1,3 = -(F2,3)
k*(q1*q3)/r^2 =k*(q2*q3)/(r-distance)^2
i know the k and q3 variables cancel out so i get
q1/r^2 = q2/(r-distance)^2

after i get this far I can't seem to get a correct answer. any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Shouldn't the distance from the second charge be (.29 - r) where r is the distance from the origin?
 
J Hann said:
Shouldn't the distance from the second charge be (.29 - r) where r is the distance from the origin?

Yes, I accidentally reversed it in my post. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
Also, remember that the third (test) charge cannot be between the first two charges because one charge will
attract the test charge and one charge will repel the test charge.
 
J Hann said:
Also, remember that the third (test) charge cannot be between the first two charges because one charge will
attract the test charge and one charge will repel the test charge.

so should the charge on q2 be q2/(.29 PLUS r)?
 
alxkrgr said:

Homework Statement


A point charge of 5.6 microcoulombs is placed at the origin (x=0) of a coordinate system, and another charge of -1.9 microcouloumbs is placed on the x-axis at .29m. Where on the axis can a third charge be placed so that it experiences no charge force?

q1= 5.6 E-6
q2= -1.9 E-6
d= .29m

Homework Equations


F= k*(q1*q2)/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Fnet = F1,3 + F2,3
Fnet = 0
F1,3 = -(F2,3)
k*(q1*q3)/r^2 =k*(q2*q3)/(r-distance)^2
i know the k and q3 variables cancel out so i get
q1/r^2 = q2/(r-distance)^2

after i get this far I can't seem to get a correct answer. any help would be greatly appreciated!
You have typo which I have indicated above.

Your equation, q1/r2 = q2/(r - d)2 is missing a negative sign. (Remember, q2 is itself negative.)

That makes it q1/r2 = -q2/(r - d)2 .

Take the square root of both sides remembering to use a ± on one side or the other. Solve for r .

alxkrgr said:
so should the charge on q2 be q2/(.29 PLUS r)?
That does not make sense. Did you mean "Should q3 be q2/(.29 + r) " ?
 

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