Which careers actively require mathematics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on identifying careers that actively utilize mathematics, particularly in the context of an electrical and computer engineering student seeking to understand which fields might align with their interests in various mathematical topics. The conversation explores the application of mathematics in engineering and related fields, while considering the necessity of advanced degrees.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that cybernetics research may be a suitable career path, although it may require graduate school.
  • Another participant notes that while many engineering and science careers will use some of the listed math topics, it is challenging to find a field that consistently uses all of them.
  • It is mentioned that engineering education includes a math-heavy curriculum primarily to equip students with tools for understanding technical subjects, rather than to perform math-intensive work regularly in their careers.
  • A participant highlights that much of engineering practice involves applying established methods rather than solving complex mathematical problems, except in research or novel developments.
  • One participant, who works as a naval architect, shares that they do not frequently use advanced mathematics in their job, despite having taken many math courses during their education.
  • Another participant proposes considering a career in software development for engineering applications, which may involve mathematics but could be less intensive than research roles.
  • It is noted that more complex mathematical problems are often addressed by individuals with Ph.D. degrees, and that system architects tend to engage with more advanced equations compared to implementers.
  • A participant discusses the boundary element method as an example of advanced mathematics used in analyzing problems in various fields, indicating that this area is often explored by Ph.D. candidates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the necessity of advanced degrees for engaging with complex mathematics in careers. There is no consensus on a single career path that consistently utilizes all the mathematical topics mentioned, and the discussion reflects differing opinions on the role of mathematics in various engineering fields.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the application of mathematics in engineering may vary significantly based on specific roles and contexts, and that many advanced mathematical techniques are often reserved for research or specialized applications.

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Hi everyone,

I am a third-year electrical & computer engineering student trying to find out what career is best suited to my interests. In the first two years of my degree, the courses I enjoyed the most were programming, linear algebra, calculus, differential equations, complex calculus, and signals & systems. A lot of things just clicked in these classes, and they were a lot of fun. I would love to do that kind of stuff all day.

Which careers involve actively using all of that cool math? I would prefer not to have to attend graduate school.

Note that as an engineering student, I took what would be considered applied math versions of these courses (i.e. few proofs, mostly concerned with modelling electrical/computer engineering phenomena).
 
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Off the degree you are headed for - probably cybernetics research.
You will need to go to grad school to meet your desires though.
 
Many engineering and science careers will use one or more of the math topics you listed at some point, but it's difficult to pinpoint one field which will use all of these math topics all of the time.

Engineering undergrads are exposed to a math-heavy curriculum not so much because they will be doing math-intensive work all of the time in their careers, but to give them the tools to understand other technical subjects which they will be taking to obtain the degree.

A lot of engineering practice involves adapting what has been done before to a slightly newer situation. You have to make sure a structure is strong enough to meet a design code, for example. Outside of doing a few simple calculations, you don't need to solve a differential equation or solve an integral. All of that has already been done to develop the code.

Now, if you are doing research or are trying to develop something new for which there is not much prior knowledge, you might have to rely on math more so to predict how this new device will perform.

I personally don't use a lot of high level math as a naval architect, although my undergrad was chock-full of the same math courses listed in the OP. About the only time I dust this stuff off is when I read a hard-core technical paper running over with various mathematical statements.

A lot of the heavy math lifting is done using computer programs to analyze designs now, freeing the engineer from the drudgery of number crunching.
 
I fully agree with SteamKing!

newageanubis - as you said you enjoy also programming: What about working for a software company that develops that sort of engineering software SteamKing has described?

Elke
 
newageanubis said:
Which careers involve actively using all of that cool math? I would prefer not to have to attend graduate school.

Unfortunately a lot of the cooler math problems will be solved by people with Ph.Ds. I have gotten involved a bit with sparse coding and compressed sensing over the last six months or so and it is really interesting but it is the system architects that get to play around with equations mostly, the implementers have profoundly interesting and satisfying problems to solve but they usually don't involve a lot of detailed math.
 
analogdesign said:
Unfortunately a lot of the cooler math problems will be solved by people with Ph.Ds.

This is certainly true. To take one example, the boundary element method allows one to analyze numerically many problems in physics, structural mechanics, fluid mechanics, etc., which normally would be analyzed using the older and more mature finite element method. However, the boundary element method uses more advanced mathematics for its development, and since it is the new kid on the block, so to speak, there are more than a few PhD. candidates writing a thesis who chose to develop or apply the mathematics of the boundary element method to analyze a certain problem in physics or mechanics. A lot of these same PhD. students will do further work in this field after obtaining the doctorate degree.
 

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