Which class of functions does 1/x belong to?

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The discussion revolves around the classification of the function \( f(x) = \frac{1}{x} \) within various mathematical function spaces, particularly in the context of functional analysis. Participants explore its properties, including continuity and membership in different function classes such as \( C^0 \), \( C^\infty \), and \( L^p \) spaces, while also considering its behavior near the point \( x = 0 \).

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  • Some participants note that \( f(x) = \frac{1}{x} \) is in \( C^0(\mathbb{R} \setminus \{0\}) \) and even in \( C^\infty(\mathbb{R} \setminus \{0\}) \).
  • Others emphasize the need for precision in defining the function, particularly regarding its behavior on the interval \([-1, 1]\) and at \( x = 0 \).
  • It is mentioned that \( f(x) \) belongs to \( L^p \) spaces for \( 0 < p < 1 \), but these spaces do not form a normed space.
  • Some participants classify \( f(x) \) as a rational function, while others seek a classification from the perspective of functional analysis.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of \( f(x) \) not being in \( L_p \) for \( p \geq 1 \) and the nature of Banach spaces.
  • A later reply discusses the relevance of \( \frac{1}{z} \) in complex analysis and its applications in functional analysis, particularly in relation to linear operators and integral operators.

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Participants express differing views on the classification of \( f(x) \) and its properties, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus on the precise classification of the function.

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There are limitations regarding the definitions and assumptions about the function's behavior at \( x = 0 \) and the implications of its classification in various function spaces. The discussion also touches on the broader implications of these classifications in functional analysis.

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For historical reasons the hyperbola always was considered to be one of the «classical» curves. The function, obviously, does not belong to C0. Apparently, is does not fit L2 or any other Lp? What is the smallest class?
 
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It depends.
$$(x \mapsto 1/x) \in C^0(\mathbb{R}\setminus \{0\})$$
In fact even
$$(x \mapsto 1/x) \in C^\infty(\mathbb{R}\setminus \{0\})$$

So I guess you will have to be a little more precise what your question is.
 
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Math_QED said:
It depends.
$$(x \mapsto 1/x) \in C^0(\mathbb{R}\setminus \{0\})$$
In fact even
$$(x \mapsto 1/x) \in C^\infty(\mathbb{R}\setminus \{0\})$$

So I guess you will have to be a little more precise what your question is.
Yes, you are right. I was thinking about interval [-1,1].
 
SVN said:
Yes, you are right. I was thinking about interval [-1,1].

So, how do you define ##x \mapsto 1/x## in ##0## then? You give it an arbitrary value?
 
It is an element of ##L^p## when ##0<p<1## but these spaces aren't as nice; e.g. ##||f||_p=\left(\int |f|^p\right)^{1/p}## doesn't define a norm.
 
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Math_QED said:
So, how do you define x↦1/xx \mapsto 1/x in 00 then? You give it an arbitrary value?

I am not sure I understand your point. The analytic functions form a small and restrictive class of functions. It can be broadened by dropping some requirements imposed on class members. It gives us this sequence (incomplete, I guess, but it illustrates the basic idea):
##C^\omega \subset C^\infty \subset C^0 \subset L^p \in##... well, I do not know what comes next, possibly, distributions.

So my question is not how to define ##1/x## in ##0##, but which class does ##1/x## belongs to, precisely because of its irregular behaviour in ##0##. Well, again the interval is ##[-1,1]##.
 
Infrared said:
It is an element of ##L^p## when ##0<p<1## but these spaces aren't as nice; e.g. ##||f||_p=\left(\int |f|^p\right)^{1/p}## doesn't define a norm.
Thank you!
 
my first response would be to call it a rational function.
 
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mathwonk said:
my first response would be to call it a rational function.
Well, of course, but I meant its classification from the viewpoint of functional analysis.
 
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It is not ##L_p## for ##p\ge 1##. For ##p\lt 1##, it won't be a Banach space.
 
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That is why I prefer complex analysis. The function \frac{1}{z} is ubiquitous in complex integration and is the basis of residue theory etc.
 
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Re post #9, Let me remark on the role of 1/z from the viewpoint of functional analysis as I understand it, and in relation to the insightful remarks of Svein. To me functional analysis is the analysis of linear operators on Banach space, of which spaces the particular examples L^p are of basic interest. You seem to have meant to ask which of these particular spaces, if any, the function 1/z belongs to, and you have received answers of that nature.

Beyond a study of examples of specific Banach spaces, functional analysis deals more deeply with the behavior of, and structure of, linear operators on these spaces, e.g. such as integral operators on function spaces. In that study it is fundamental to study the construction of new operators out of old, and the decomposition of arbitrary operators into combinations of standard ones.

Just as in finite dimensions it is crucial to examine the result of operators defined by applying polynomials to linear operators, so in infinite dimensions does it become important to apply more general functions, in particular holomorphic and rational functions to given operators. A fundamental question is whether a given operator has an inverse, say an operator of form (T-cI), and the inverse of this operator may be sought by substituting T into the rational function 1/(z-c). The theory of complex path integration, i.e. complex residues, is crucial here.

Some comments on the evaluation of rational functions at linear operators can be found in the fundamental reference Functional Analysis, by Riesz-Nagy, pages 422, 431. I hope this may be of interest.
 
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