Which cosmological model do you find most compelling?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around preferences for various cosmological models, with participants sharing their views on which models they find most compelling and why. The scope includes theoretical considerations and personal interpretations of the models, while acknowledging the uncertainty of which model, if any, accurately describes the universe.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a preference for the standard LCDM model, citing its fit with observations and simplicity.
  • One participant challenges the assumption that any model can be definitively chosen, emphasizing the preconceived notions that influence model selection.
  • Another participant proposes the "de Sitter universe," referencing its historical context and its approximation to the observed universe, particularly in relation to the redshift-distance relationship.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus, as multiple competing views on cosmological models are presented, with differing opinions on the merits and implications of each model.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the reliance on observational assumptions, such as homogeneity, and the acknowledgment that the de Sitter universe is an approximation rather than a complete model of the universe.

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Which of the common cosmological models do you prefer and why?
Assume we don't know which if any of the models is the actual one that matches the universe.
 
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The standard LCDM model of course. It fits observations the best.
 
nicksauce said:
The standard LCDM model of course. It fits observations the best.
...and also has the virtue of being the simplest that matches the observations.
 
I think you missed that sentence:
kathykoo9 said:
Assume we don't know which if any of the models is the actual one that matches the universe.


But really, I just can't imagine I knew nothing about the universe and the make my choice. For example, even the basic assumption of the common models (homogeneity) is based on observation. I'm already preconceived.
 
I would probably go for the "de Sitter universe" as he first presented it in 1917 in his famous at the time but nowadays mostly ignored or distorted three part paper: “A. Einstein’s Theory of Gravitation and its Astronomical Consequences”. In it he describes what he called "model B" universe to distinguish it from the one proposed that same year by Einstein. In this universe you can find the "de sitter effect" which predicted the redshift- distance relationship in a very different light with respect to the way it is now understood,and that Hubble used to explain in several instances his redshift-distance observations. However, it works only as an approximation to a universe like the one we observe in which there is litle matter in proportion to vacuum since "de Sitter universe" is an empty universe with no matter.
 

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