Which Diagram Represents Concurrent Forces?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the correct diagram that represents concurrent forces. Participants are examining two diagrams and questioning their characteristics in relation to the concept of concurrent forces.

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  • Participants are attempting to differentiate between two diagrams, questioning whether they represent concurrent forces correctly. Some express confusion about the definitions and implications of concurrent forces, while others explore the context of the diagrams and the conditions under which forces are considered concurrent.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the definition of concurrent forces, while others are still seeking clarification on the diagrams and their implications. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the characteristics of concurrent forces.

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Participants are discussing the assumption that the forces are coplanar, and there is mention of the diagrams potentially representing different scenarios, such as compressive forces. The original poster indicates confusion stemming from lecture notes, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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Which is the correct diagram for concurrent forces? The left or the right one ?

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Both diagrams are identical.
 
BvU said:
Both diagrams are identical.
no , one is all the forces acted towards the circle , the another one is forces away from the circle..Which is the correct diagram for concurrent forces?
 
Ah, so there is a context.
My answer was based on the idea that a force can be moved along its line of action.
Apparently the circle represents something that can be deformed so that the above rule doesn't apply any more ?
 
BvU said:
Ah, so there is a context.
My answer was based on the idea that a force can be moved along its line of action.
Apparently the circle represents something that can be deformed so that the above rule doesn't apply any more ?
assuming they are the similar circle , no deformation occur (rigid body)Which is the correct diagram for concurrent forces?
 
Sorry, I still don't get what this is about. What are concurrent forces ? And what would those forces be if they were not concurrent ? Countercurrent ? Cooperative ?
 
Ah ! Google to the rescue. Concurrent means the lines of actions are going through one single point
 
Really a good source, this google search: both pictures are concurrent forces. One is compressive.

See here (simple google!)
 
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And now that we know what we are looking for: the inwards or outwards isn't the deciding factor. Protract the force lines and see if they go through one single point.

For experts only: the problem statement is incomplete if it doesn't state that the forces shown are coplanar !
 
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I like to be liked, but I like it even better when a student understands. Was this a homework exercise where you reconstructed the original picture and you now know which feature is the one that requires the most attention ?

And now that I know you can post a drawing :smile: -- how are we doing with the torque equilibrium exercise ?
 
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BvU said:
I like to be liked, but I like it even better when a student understands. Was this a homework exercise where you reconstructed the original picture and you now know which feature is the one that requires the most attention ?

And now that I know you can post a drawing :smile: -- how are we doing with the torque equilibrium exercise ?
no, this is not an exercise . I just don't understand the notes given by my lecturer , and i ask here
 
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I see. All clear now, I hope.
 
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