Which direction is skylight polarized at sunset?

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The discussion revolves around the polarization of skylight at sunset, particularly when the sunset occurs in the West. Participants explore the relationship between Rayleigh scattering and the polarization of skylight, seeking to understand the direction of this polarization during sunset.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether skylight, as affected by Rayleigh scattering, exhibits polarization and seeks clarification on this concept.
  • Another participant suggests that polarized sunglasses can help observe the polarization of skylight, although they express uncertainty about the underlying mechanism.
  • A later reply mentions that humans may detect skylight polarization under certain conditions, although the specific name for this effect is not recalled.
  • One participant asserts that at sunset, the light from the sky is horizontally polarized, as it becomes polarized perpendicular to the scattering plane, while also noting that looking directly at the sun would be blinding.
  • Another participant claims that measuring polarization from the direction of the sun would reveal vertical polarization, as horizontal polarization scatters away.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms and implications of skylight polarization at sunset, with no consensus reached on the specific direction of polarization or the underlying principles involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge uncertainty regarding the mechanisms of polarization and the conditions under which it can be observed, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

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Hi all, can anyone help me understand in which direction skylight would be polarized at sunset, if the sunset was the in the West? I understand Rayleigh scattering, I'm just not sure about this concept.
 
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Are you suggesting that this "skylight" (as opposed to direct sunlight) that is subject to Rayleigh scattering has some sort of polarization introduced to it as a result? I don't know enough about the phenomenon to confirm or deny that.
 
cepheid,

Yes, this is what I am getting at. I was wondering if anyone could explain this to me.
 
I'm not sure of the mechanism, but if your sunglasses are polarised, you need only tilt your head to observe that the light from the sky is also largely polarised.
 
cesiumfrog said:
I'm not sure of the mechanism, but if your sunglasses are polarised, you need only tilt your head to observe that the light from the sky is also largely polarised.

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cesiumfrog said:
I'm not sure of the mechanism, but if your sunglasses are polarised, you need only tilt your head to observe that the light from the sky is also largely polarised.

With training, humans may be able to detect the polarization of skylight with the unaided eye under some conditions (this is a named effect, but unfortunately I can't recall the name). In general engineering terms, however, the human eye is not well designed, so there is considerable interest in producing robotic vision system which can detect and process polarization in addition to sensory modalities such as saturation and hue. The hope is that this will help autonomous "robowarriors" to distinguish between things they should should at and things they should not.
 
If you look up at sunset, the light will be horizontally polarilzed, because it becomes polarized perpendicular to the plane of the scattering.
If you look toward the sun, you will blind yourself.
But, if you measure the polarization from the direction of the sun,
it will be polarilzed vertically, because the horizontal polarization scatters away.
 

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