Which Equation Determines the Time for the Leaning Tower of Pisa to Fall?

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The problem involves determining which equation correctly describes the time it takes for the Leaning Tower of Pisa to fall, based on its mass, height, and gravitational acceleration. The original poster presents several equations and expresses uncertainty about their validity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of different equations by analyzing their dimensional consistency. The original poster attempts to relate the variables but struggles with the formulas presented. Some participants suggest focusing on unit analysis to identify the correct equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring dimensional analysis as a method to evaluate the equations. Guidance has been offered regarding the importance of checking dimensions, and there is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in understanding the relationships between the variables.

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The original poster mentions an impending exam, which may add urgency to their request for assistance. There is a focus on ensuring that the equations align dimensionally, but no specific resolution has been reached regarding which equation is correct.

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Homework Statement



The ground around the Leaning Tower of Pisa one day gives way and the tower topples over. It is found from Mechanics theory that the only things that may determine the time it takes the toppling tower to fall to the ground are:

the mass (m) of the tower
the height (h) of the tower
the gravity acceleration (g).

Given that k is a dimensionless constant, the dependence of the time t for the tower to strike the ground upon m, h and g is given by:

(a) t=k\sqrt{\frac{g}{h}}

(b) t=k\sqrt{\frac{hm}{g}}

(c) t=k\sqrt{\frac{h}{g}}

(d) t=km\sqrt{\frac{h}{g}}

(e) t=k\sqrt{\frac{m}{g}}


The Attempt at a Solution



I don't recognize any of the formulas here so I can't tell which one is the correct answer. The only formula I can think of that interrelates some of these variables is h=v_y-gt and I can replace the v by at to get h=t(a-g)\Rightarrowt=\frac{a-g}{h}. But again the resulting formula doesn't take mass into account. Can anyone help?
 
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Try analyse the units (time, length, mass) involved in the different equations (hint: only one of the equations have the same effective unit on both sides).
 
Filip Larsen said:
Try analyse the units (time, length, mass) involved in the different equations (hint: only one of the equations have the same effective unit on both sides).

Alright, I have

T=kmxhygz

T1=mxLy(L/T2)z

T1=mxLy(L/T2)z

T1=mxLy Lz T-2z

So we have x+y-z=1. But I'm stuck here and I have an exam tomorrow...
Could you show me how to work out the values of x,y,z? I don't get it! :(
 
It is simpler than you think - you just have to check in each case if the dimension on the left-hand side of the equation equals the resulting dimension on the right-hand side. (Note, that when I said "unit" in my earlier answer I really meant "dimension", which looks like how you read it anyway).

For instance, in (a) you have dimension T (time) on the left-hand side (all four equations have that dimension on the left-hand side), and on the right-hand side you have g with dimension LS-2 (length divided by time squared) and h with dimension L, so g/h is of dimension LS-2 L-1 = S-2 and finally after the square root you get square root S-2 = S. Since k is dimensionless, the left-hand T is not clearly not equal to S-1 and so you can conclude that this equation cannot be physically correct.

Similar analysis can be done for the remaining three equations to reveal that for one of them the dimensions are equal and this equation then could express a physical correct relationship between the physical quantities involved. Note, that having an equation where the dimensions check is a required, but in general not a sufficient condition for a physical correct relationship. In this problem, however, it is assumed that at least one equation is physical correct and you then use dimensional analysis to show how to identify that one equation.

Good luck with your exam.
 

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