Which Is Better for Physics: Boston University or UC Davis?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison of Boston University (BU) and UC Davis for pursuing a major in Physics, particularly focusing on academic reputation, physics programs, and research opportunities. Participants share their insights and experiences to help the original poster make an informed decision.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that both universities are ranked equally in the US News College Ranking, tied for #41 among National Universities, suggesting that both offer a good education.
  • Others emphasize that rankings may not be as significant at the undergraduate level, especially when the schools are closely ranked.
  • One participant shares personal experience from UC Davis, highlighting its small-town feel and the importance of considering campus features and weather in the decision-making process.
  • Concerns are raised about competition in introductory classes at UC Davis due to a large number of pre-med students, which may impact the learning environment for physics students.
  • Participants suggest exploring virtual tours of both campuses to get a better sense of the environments.
  • There is mention of an Honors Program for Physics at UC Davis, which the original poster finds appealing.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the ease of getting involved in research at either institution, with anecdotal evidence suggesting opportunities exist at UC Davis.
  • One participant points out the potential higher cost of living in California compared to Boston, which may be a factor in the decision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that both universities are academically comparable, but there are multiple competing views regarding the significance of campus environment, weather, and competition among students. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which institution may be better suited for the original poster's specific needs.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the subjective nature of personal experiences shared by participants and the lack of definitive information regarding current research opportunities at both universities.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective physics students considering Boston University or UC Davis, particularly international students weighing academic and environmental factors in their decision-making process.

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Hi everyone!
I'm an international student who just got accepted to those two great Unis!
I'm really happy, however, I really don't know where to go. I plan to major in Physics, and to continue my grad school in physics too, especially, theoretical physics.

Could someone give me an objective point of view? Which one is better? Leave you comments only about:

1. Accademic Reputation / Prestige
2. Physics programs
3. Research opportunities

Thanks so much!
 
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Interesting. According to the US News College Ranking, these two schools are ranked equally, tied for #41 in the ranking of National Universities. Both are quite good schools, and I'm sure you can get a good education at either place. They are polar opposites in terms of weather and setting - Boston is a large Eastern city and Davis is a smaller town in California's Central Valley, surrounded by farms and orchards. Can you afford to visit both and see which environment you prefer?
 
Thanks!
Yes, i can afford both, but however i don't have the opportunity to visit.
It's a really tough decision, in every ranking I go, they are always very close.
BU US News Global School --> 32
Davis US News Globa School --> 39
BU US news Physics --> 39
Davis US news Physics --> 29
 
Don't stress out over rankings or "prestige factor." At the undergraduate level they don't mean much, especially when they're that close. It's not like they were #5 and #250. Even at #250... I did my undergrad at a small college in Ohio which probably doesn't even figure into the national rankings, only regional; but I ended up at U of Michigan for grad school, which is usually considered in the top 20 in the US.
 
Thabk you so much!
I know that they don't mean so much.. But after all, is the only source I can check at the moment ☹️
Do you have any personal experience about the two? If You were me, and both school were exactly the same for campus and weather, what would you choose?

Thanka again!
 
I'd say they are basically equal academically, so you should make your decision on other factors. They are very much not the same for campus and weather.
 
I got my BSEE at UC Davis, and enjoyed both the EE and Physics programs there. The campus has grown quite a bit since I went there, but it still has a fairly small-town feel to it. It sounds like there is no big difference academically between the two, so I'd say you should base your decision on the campus features and the weather, etc. instead.

What is the weather like where you live now? Will you stay at school during the summers too, or go back home for the summers. The summers at Davis get pretty hot (but dry).

I'd think you should be able to take "virtual tours" of the two campuses -- have you looked on their websites for such tours?

One other point -- UC Davis has a large medical school and veterinary school, and a larger proportion of the undergraduate students are "pre-med" compared to many other schools. This means that you will get pretty stiff competition in the large introductory classes that you take (like chemistry), because of the large number of very motivated pre-med students. It's not a big deal, as long as you are willing to study pretty hard to keep up. :smile:
 
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BTW, I've gone back to Davis for the annual open house day many times -- it's called "Picnic Day", and is coming up in a few weeks on April 18th:

https://picnicday.ucdavis.edu/schedule-of-events-2015/

It's a great way to see the campus and have some fun at the same time. It's best if you can bring or rent a bike -- the campus and town of Davis run pretty much on bicycles and not cars. :smile:
 
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Thank you so much!
I'm starting leading towards davis especially for the Campus and the weather, I'm not sure how I'd like a city campus...
Also, since you went to Davis, what do you think is the education there? I'm really looking for a Uni that can challenge me and prepare me for Graduate School.
I also check on Davis websited and I saw they have the Honors Program for Physics. It looks really good!
How easy/hard is to get into research in Physics there?

Thank you! :)
 
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grimx said:
How easy/hard is to get into research in Physics there?
I'm not sure how it is now, but if you made the trip for Picnic Day, there are lots of folks you can ask questions of... :smile:
 
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UCD will prepare you well for graduate school, I'm sure Boston would as well. California will probably be more expensive, but if you can afford either it's probably no big deal to you.

There are plenty of opportunities for research in the UC system. I went to UCSD, and it was relatively easy to find work. My gut tells me Davis will be the same, but I don't have any first hand experience there.
 
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Thank you all guys! I just wanted to let you know that I finally made a decision, and I'm choosing UC Davis!
 
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berkeman said:
I got my BSEE at UC Davis, and enjoyed both the EE and Physics programs there. The campus has grown quite a bit since I went there, but it still has a fairly small-town feel to it. It sounds like there is no big difference academically between the two, so I'd say you should base your decision on the campus features and the weather, etc. instead.

What is the weather like where you live now? Will you stay at school during the summers too, or go back home for the summers. The summers at Davis get pretty hot (but dry).

I'd think you should be able to take "virtual tours" of the two campuses -- have you looked on their websites for such tours?

One other point -- UC Davis has a large medical school and veterinary school, and a larger proportion of the undergraduate students are "pre-med" compared to many other schools. This means that you will get pretty stiff competition in the large introductory classes that you take (like chemistry), because of the large number of very motivated pre-med students. It's not a big deal, as long as you are willing to study pretty hard to keep up. :smile:

Does that hold true when comparing UC Davis to BU on that aspect?
 
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grimx said:
Thank you all guys! I just wanted to let you know that I finally made a decision, and I'm choosing UC Davis!
Congratulations! Don't forget your bicycle.
 
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@phyzguy oh yeah! I'll get a classic, dutch, city bike. Love that style
 
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Catria said:
Does that hold true when comparing UC Davis to BU on that aspect?
I don't know. Does BU have a top-flight Med School and topper-flight Vet School? If so, then that aspect would be similar... :smile:
 
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I knew BU had a med school and a dental school, hence my confusion about asking how common are premeds at UC Davis vs. BU...
 
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I have never been to Davis. I spent a couple of weeks at BU, one summer. It seems at BU you do not need a car. I heard most places in California requires a car. The public transportation system in Boston is old but it is good. Prepare yourself to be packed into the busses like cattle, though. Oops, I think I stayed at Boston College (in chestnut hill?) rather than BU.
 

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