Which Model Explains Light Polarization: Ray Optics or Particle Model?

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The discussion revolves around the models of light used to explain polarization, specifically questioning whether ray optics or the particle model is more applicable. Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of these models in the context of light behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about which model applies to polarization, with some suggesting the particle model while others seek clarification on definitions. Questions arise regarding the properties of light in both models and how they relate to polarization.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and questioning the clarity of the original problem. Some guidance is offered regarding the properties of light particles and their relation to polarization, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of familiarity with polarization and express uncertainty about the original choices presented in the question. There is mention of an electromagnetic wave model as a potential alternative, indicating a broader exploration of concepts.

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Homework Statement



Which model of light is used to explain polarization?

Ray optics or particle model?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know. My guess is particle model.
 
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Jimmy25 said:

Homework Statement



Which model of light is used to explain polarization?

Ray optics or particle model?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know. My guess is particle model.

That doesn't ring any bells with me either. What are the definitions of "ray optics" and "the particle model"?
 
"Rays are used to model the propagation of light through an optical system, by dividing the real light field up into discrete rays that can be computationally propagated through the system"

I assume the particle model models light as particle as opposed to a ray.

I still don't know which could be better applied to the polarization of light.
 
Jimmy25 said:
"Rays are used to model the propagation of light through an optical system, by dividing the real light field up into discrete rays that can be computationally propagated through the system"

I assume the particle model models light as particle as opposed to a ray.

I still don't know which could be better applied to the polarization of light.

Okay, I think I see where they are going with this question, but IMO it's not a very good question (not your fault), and is a bit obscure.

As you stated, Ray Tracing is used to model the propagation of light through optics, so on the surface, it is pretty independent of polarization.

So think about the "particle" model of light. What are the fundamental particles of light called? What properties does each of these particles posses (there are several properties). When you have a bunch of uncoordinated ones of these particles moving together, what polarization characteristic would you get when you measured the polarization? What would you get if you could measure an individual particle? (or a group of particles with similar properties...)
 
hmmm.

Maybe I'm not on the right track here. I narrowed it down to two possible choices out of four, perhaps I shouldn't have been so quick to rule other two options out.

EM wave model is another possible answer.

I don't know anything about polarization other than polarized light is light that has been "filtered."
 
Jimmy25 said:
hmmm.

Maybe I'm not on the right track here. I narrowed it down to two possible choices out of four, perhaps I shouldn't have been so quick to rule other two options out.

EM wave model is another possible answer.

I don't know anything about polarization other than polarized light is light that has been "filtered."

Um, what were the original choices (exact words please)?
 

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