Which Physics Books Would Be Best for Self-Study?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for physics books suitable for self-study, particularly for someone transitioning from a math background to a potential joint math/physics degree. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding the depth and rigor of the material, as well as the types of problems included in various texts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a sequence of books: Kleppner, Morin, and Purcell, emphasizing a preference for comprehensive texts that allow for deep learning of individual topics.
  • Another participant recommends the Feynman Lectures as a supplementary resource, noting its lack of practice problems but highlighting its value as an insightful read.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of advanced mathematics for introductory physics, with some stating that single-variable calculus suffices for early studies.
  • A participant mentions that Morin's problems are exceptionally challenging and that working through them can solidify understanding, while also advising against looking at solutions too quickly.
  • There is a suggestion that Morin can be used alongside Kleppner for additional problem-solving practice, although it is noted that these books may not focus heavily on mathematical proofs.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for equations to be derived rather than simply stated, indicating a preference for a more rigorous approach to learning physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of the recommended books, but there are differing opinions on the necessity of mathematical rigor and the balance between physical reasoning and mathematical proofs. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to integrating these texts into a self-study regimen.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the level of mathematics required for introductory physics, and there are varying interpretations of how much mathematical proof should be included in the study materials.

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Hello, I just finished high school and will be starting a math degree next year. However, I have recently become interested in physics and am thinking of switching to a joint math/physics degree in year 2, so I will want to spend my first year privately studying some select physics books.

My physics background is as follows. I know units 1-4 http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/specifications/alevel/AQA-2450-W-SP-14.PDF and the mechanics 1-3 units http://www.ocr.org.uk/Images/75811-specification.pdf , and that's about it. However, I have a strong discrete math/problem solving background and am able to solve several math olympiad problems -- including a few IMO problems (primarily algebra and number theory). I know math up to calculus, as taught in Apostol's two calculus volumes.

I have looked around and decided that a reasonable sequence of books to study would be: kleppner --> morin --> purcell, but I am highly open to recommendations; for instance, I've heard good things about the Feynman lectures. I would say I learn best with books that explain the material clearly (and rigorously, so including mathematical proofs where possible) and include very challenging problems. I prefer thick comprehensive books to ones that cover many topics at once (so called "general physics" books). I think I learn best when I learn one topic at a time deeply rather than many topics at a time and less deeply, which is why I tend to stay away from books like Halliday/Resnick (I've tried learning from this one in the past but it didn't go well).

Looking forward to any advice I can get. (:
 
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Do not use it entirely by itself, but do consider reading the Feynman lectures along with whatever book you do go with. It's available for free on Caltech's website. Its (major) drawback is that it doesn't have any practice problems, but it's an excellent read.

That said, higher level mathematics like analysis, abstract algebra, and set theory is never used in freshman-junior level physics courses. The most you'll need for introductory physics is single-variable calculus, and then if you know multivariable calculus and differential equations, you could go into classical mechanics and electromagnetism.

Unfortunately, I used Halliday and Resnick for my intro physics courses, so they would be my first suggestion. I'm sure others here will have some good intro books to suggest.
 
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Thank you for your reply axmls; it's good to know that I won't be needing the fancier advanced math topics because I will be learning those next year and wanted to start learning physics as soon as possible. I will probably be getting the Feynman lectures box set soon as they seem to be quite fundamental for learning the subject well. Looking forward to more replies. (:
 
I haven't read Morin (except a few chapters) but the problems are exceptionally good. If you can do the 3/4 star problems in that book, you will definitely have a solid understanding.

Quote from the preface:
David Morin said:
Just to warn you, even if you understand the material in the text backwards and forwards, the four-star (and many of the three-star) problems will still be extremely challenging. But that’s how it should be. My goal was to create an unreachable upper bound on the number (and difficulty) of problems, because it would be an unfortunate circumstance, indeed, if you were left twiddling your thumbs, having run out of problems to solve. I hope I have succeeded.
For the problems you choose to work on, be careful not to look at the solution too soon. There is nothing wrong with putting a problem aside for a while and coming back to it later. Indeed, this is probably the best way to approach things. If you head to the solution at the first sign of not being able to solve a problem, then you have wasted the problem.

In my opinion the problems are the main attraction for that book (the writing is also good, from what I've read, but the problems are the real fun).

Again, I've only explored the first half of that book (and for some chapters I just went straight to the problems) so I can't make a full review of the book. Just wanted to let you know that this is a book for people who enjoy solving tricky problems.
 
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Puddle said:
I have looked around and decided that a reasonable sequence of books to study would be: kleppner --> morin --> purcell, but I am highly open to recommendations;
Morin is a problem book, you can use it concurrently with Kleppner as a source of extra problems if you want. Alternatively, you can jump into Purcell right after Kleppner.
However, these books are very physical so do not count on seeing a lot of mathematical proofs there. For a mechanics book with a mathematical inclination I have seen https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521534097/?tag=pfamazon01-20 being recommended here.
 
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Wow, thanks for the informative quote Nathanael -- seems like this book was made for me! And thanks for your advice montadhar, the two books look like they make a good combination. I don't mind physical reasoning at all; what I meant by mathematical proofs was that I prefer equations to be derived rather than just stated as they are in the rubbish school textbooks I've been using.
 
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Puddle said:
Wow, thanks for the informative quote Nathanael -- seems like this book was made for me! And thanks for your advice montadhar, the two books look like they make a good combination. I don't mind physical reasoning at all; what I meant by mathematical proofs was that I prefer equations to be derived rather than just stated as they are in the rubbish school textbooks I've been using.
Then these books will have what you want, you will love them if you like challenging yourself :smile: The Feynman lectures are very insightful, I think they would make the most impact by reading the corresponding chapter in them after finishing the problems of that chapter in your main textbooks. However, I would be interested to see what the others' experiences are with them.
 
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