Which quantities are not the same for this capacitor setup?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around two parallel-plate capacitors with the same plate separation but different capacitance, connected in parallel to a battery. The focus is on identifying which quantities are not the same for both capacitors when fully charged.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of different capacitances on potential difference, energy density, electric field, and charge. There is a debate about whether energy density or charge differs between the capacitors.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions of energy density and total energy, while others are questioning their understanding of these concepts. The discussion is ongoing, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating definitions from textbooks and class notes, indicating potential discrepancies in understanding the terms used in the problem.

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Homework Statement



Two parallel-plate capacitors with the same plate separation but different capacitance are connected in parallel to a battery. Both capacitors are filled with air. The quantity that is NOT the same for both capacitors when they are fully charged is:

A. potential difference
B. energy density
C. electric field between the plates
D. charge on the positive plate
E. dielectric constant

Homework Equations



## C = \frac{Q}{V} ##

## C = \frac{\epsilon_0 A}{d} ##

## U = \frac{1}{2}CV^2 = \frac{Q^2}{2C} ##

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer is listed as D.

Because the capacitors are hooked up in parallel and stay connected to the battery, I know the potential difference (A) will remain the same (The electric field will also then remain the same (C)).

Dielectric constant is the same (E).

So it's between B and D.

We're told the capacitances are different and know that ## U = \frac{1}{2}CV^2 ##.

If the capacitances are different, then it seems that the energy densities should also be different. But I also think the charge on each capacitor should be different. So I think both B and D won't the same!

Any thoughts on where I'm going wrong?
 
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eprparadox said:
We're told the capacitances are different and know that ## U = \frac{1}{2}CV^2 ##.
Is U the total energy stored in the capacitor or is it the energy density of the capacitor?
 
@TSny U is the energy density.
 
eprparadox said:
@TSny U is the energy density.
No. Check your textbook or class notes.
 
shoot, my bad. The energy density is a function of the electric field, which stays the same. This is the total energy. sorry about that.
 
No problem. Good work.
 

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