Which Quantum Numbers Are Not Possible for Arsenic?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the possible sets of quantum numbers for an electron in an arsenic atom (Z = 33) in its ground state. Participants explore the implications of quantum numbers in relation to the electron configuration of arsenic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a set of quantum numbers and identifies which are possible for arsenic based on its electron configuration.
  • Another participant questions whether arsenic has electrons in the 4d orbital when in the ground state.
  • A different participant clarifies that while the quantum number l of 2 corresponds to a d orbital, arsenic does not have electrons in the 4d orbital in its ground state.
  • There is a correction regarding the location of d electrons, specifying that arsenic has electrons in the 3d orbital, not the 4d.

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Participants generally agree on the electron configuration of arsenic and the implications for quantum numbers, but there is some confusion regarding the specific orbital designations and the presence of electrons in those orbitals.

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There is an unresolved discussion about the interpretation of quantum numbers and their application to the ground state of arsenic, particularly regarding the distinction between 3d and 4d orbitals.

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11. Which one of the following sets of quantum numbers (n, l, ml, ms) could not possibly describe one electron of an arsenic atom (Z = 33) in its ground state?

(A) 2, 1, -1, 1/2
(B) 4, 2, 2, -1/2
(C) 3, 0, 0, -1/2
(D) 3, 2, -2, 1/2
(E) 4, 1, 0, 1/2

Solution:

Electron configuration for arsenic:
1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6 4s2 3d10 4p3

2, 1, -1, 1/2 represents a 2 p electron, possible.
4, 2, 2, -1/2 represents a 4 d electron, NOT possible for As.
3, 0, 0, -1/2 represents a 3 s electron, possible.
3, 2, -2, 1/2 represents a 3 d electron, possible.
4, 1, 0, 1/2 represents a 4 p electron, possible.

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I don't understand why its the second one, I do know that all of the numbers are allowed for n, l, ml, ms, but i don't understand how it changes when the element As comes into play.

Thanks for any help
 
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Does As have electrons on 4d when in ground state?
 


Oh ok, that's what i didn't understand in quantum numbers, l of 2 indicates a d orbital, but as has no electrons in a d orbital in ground state. thx
 


lost_in_phys said:
l of 2 indicates a d orbital, but as has no electrons in a d orbital in ground state. thx

Yes it has - but on 3d, not 4d.
 


Sorry, yea, that's what i meant, thx
 

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