Which Scalar Quantity Cannot Be Less Than Zero?

  • Thread starter Thread starter tinwhistler
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Zero
Click For Summary
The discussion centers on identifying which scalar quantity among work, power, weight, and kinetic energy cannot be less than zero. Participants clarify the definitions of these quantities, noting that work and power can be consumed, while weight is typically considered a vector quantity. Kinetic energy is highlighted as always being positive since it depends on mass and the square of velocity. There is some confusion regarding the classification of weight, but it is ultimately agreed that in the context of the question, kinetic energy is the scalar quantity that cannot be less than zero. The conversation emphasizes the need for precise definitions in physics discussions.
tinwhistler
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
1. Work, Power, Weight, and Kinetic energy are all scalar quantaties. Which cannot be less than zero?


2. Relevant definitions
Work is a force action through a distance that is in the direction of the force.
Power is the rate at which work is performed.
Weight is the force exerted on a mass as a force of gravity.
Kinetic energy is the energy (ability to do work) a body or particle posseses because of its motion.

The Attempt at a Solution



Could only find the definitions to assist me. Work can be consumed, so can power, so I'm pretty sure those are not the answer. Then, when there is no movement of particles, there would be no kinetic energy, right? But can there be less than that? Moving backwards? What about weight. It is possible to have an absence of a gravitational force, but can there be less than that? There should only be one answer. I am leaning towards weight, but if someone can clarify for me, and tell me if I'm right, totally wrong, etc, I'd appreciate it.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Weight is a vector quantity, not a scalar. It does not belong in the problem statement.
 
PhanthomJay said:
Weight is a vector quantity, not a scalar. It does not belong in the problem statement.

The weight of a body is the magnitude of the net force required to prevent the body from falling freely, as measured by someone on the ground.

So the weight would then equal the magnitude of the gravitational force on the body.

W = mg

Assuming the ground is the inertial reference frame of course. So I believe in this context it should probably be included.

CS
 
I must admit that I have never seen weight defined as a scalar quantity. In all the situations I have met, weight is a vector.
 
Hootenanny said:
I must admit that I have never seen weight defined as a scalar quantity. In all the situations I have met, weight is a vector.

I'm in agreement with you guys that weight, strictly speaking, is a vector. I was just saying that in the context the question was written (i.e. what cannot be less than zero), since weight is normally defined as the magnitude it can't be negative.

Not sure why I'm trying to justify a question that is obviously written poorly! :rolleyes:

CS
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

Similar threads

Replies
20
Views
2K
  • · Replies 33 ·
2
Replies
33
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
1K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K