Which Vector Notation is Best for Physics, Engineering, and Mathematics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the preferred vector notation among physicists, engineers, and mathematicians, exploring different notational systems such as column matrices and component-based expressions. Participants share their preferences and the contexts in which they find certain notations more useful.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a preference for column matrix notation in linear algebra, while expressing uncertainty about its representation in LaTeX.
  • Another participant mentions using the notation for quick writing, favoring column matrices primarily when working with matrices.
  • A different participant argues that the xi + yj + zk notation is easier to write and facilitates cross-products.
  • One participant emphasizes that the choice of vector notation depends on the application, discussing the independence of vectors and tensors from the coordinate system used to describe them.
  • This participant also introduces the concept of coordinate-free notation and Einstein notation, suggesting that while they can be complex, they offer valuable tools for understanding vector and tensor manipulation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying preferences for vector notation based on context, with no consensus on a single preferred notation. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best approach for different applications.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of vector notation and its dependence on specific applications, with references to coordinate systems and the potential for confusion in notation choices.

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I'm curious, which vector notation is preferred by physicists/engineers/mathematicians? In linear algebra we used matrix notation exclusively, putting the x,y,z,... components down a column matrix. (no idea how to put this in latex). In all my other courses though, we've been using (xi +yj +zk) notation where x,y,z are the components of the vector and i,j,k are unit vectors on the x, y, and z axes respectively.

Which notation do you prefer for which situations and why?
 
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If I am writing quickly, just <x, y, z> will do. Typically, I would use the "column matrix" form only if I were working with matrices.

By the way, you can do matrices in LaTex with \begin{bmatrix}... \end{bmatrix} for "square brackets" or \begin{pmatrix} ... \end{pmatrix} for "parentheses". Use & to separate items on a single line and \\ to separate lines a single column matrix would be
\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \\ z\end{bmatrix}:
[tex]\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \\ z\end{bmatrix}[/tex].

You can see the code for that, or any LaTex, by double clicking on the expression.
 
hi thegreenlaser! :wink:

xi +yj +zk is often easier to write,

and it's a lot easier to make cross-products with! :smile:
 
It definitely depends on the application. The thing about vectors and tensors in physics is that they don't depend on the coordinate system you use to describe them. You can use coordinate free notation, like C=A+B, but it can get messy, its much easier sometimes to use the "language" of a coordinate system to talk about vectors, like C1=A1+B1, C2=A2+B2, etc. But then sometimes you have to deal with the fact that the vector and tensor equations using these coordinate systems are independent of those coordinate systems. This can get messy too, but Einstein developed a way of describing vectors using coordinate systems along with a bunch of rules about how to manipulate them which automatically shows you the invariance of the equations. Check out "Einstein notation" and "Coordinate free notation" on Wikipedia. It takes some work to get the hang of it, but once you do, its a very valuable tool in your vector/tensor toolkit.
 

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