Which Vehicle Has a Greater Impact Force: 1500kg at 50mph or 2000kg at 30mph?

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The discussion revolves around comparing the impact forces of two vehicles: a 1500kg vehicle traveling at 50mph and a 2000kg vehicle traveling at 30mph, both impacting a stationary object. The context is theoretical, focusing on the principles of physics related to force and momentum.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mass, speed, and impact force, questioning how to calculate the force without acceleration due to constant speed. There is discussion about using impulse and momentum to analyze the situation, with some participants seeking clarification on the calculations involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting methods to calculate impulse and momentum. There is a recognition that additional factors, such as stopping time or distance, may be necessary for a complete analysis, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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The discussion is constrained by the lack of specific information regarding stopping time or distance, which are not provided in the theoretical scenario.

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This isn't officially a homework question, just a problem/discussion that has arisen at work...

so, basically we are looking to find out which would have a greater impact:-

a 1500kg vehicle traveling at a constant speed of 50mph

or

a 2000kg vehicle traveling at a constant speed of 30mph


we are basing this on impact with a stationary object with no movement, eg a solid wall.

Now i know that F = MA, but with the speed being constant then surely there would be no acceleration?

is there anyway we can calculate this with just the information provided? or does stopping time/distance have to get involved (as this is just a theoretical question, we haven't actually got any of these factors)

Please Help :eek:
 
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Well, you could calculate the impulse (or change in momentum) of the cars assuming when they hit the wall, they stop. If you define positive x right, then the impulse will be in the negative x direction, same direction as the force exerted by the wall. To find the magnitude of the force exerted on the cars by the wall requires their time of contact.
 
ok, so that would probably work...

can you explain how i would go about working that out?

:)
 
h9376w said:
ok, so that would probably work...

can you explain how i would go about working that out?

:)
Have you come across the concept of impulse and momentum?
Use the relation, [tex]Ft = m(v-u).[/tex] This is essentially F = ma but inputting a kinematic relation which describes constant acceleration. As I said before, with the given data you can only compute the quantity Ft, known as impulse.
See here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse_(physics )
 
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