Who accredits Physics/Astronomy programs?

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The discussion centers on the accreditation of physics and astronomy programs, particularly in the context of the United States and comparisons with other countries. Participants explore whether there is a formal accreditation process similar to that of engineering or chemistry programs.

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  • Exploratory, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that in the US, ABET accreditation is the standard for engineering programs, questioning if a similar accreditation exists for physics or astronomy.
  • Another participant asserts that there is no formal accreditation for physics or astronomy programs in the US, contrasting it with chemistry, which has optional ACS accreditation.
  • A third participant agrees, suggesting that the absence of a clear professional path for physicists with only a bachelor's degree may contribute to the lack of accreditation.
  • One participant mentions that in the UK, undergraduate physics programs are accredited by the Institute of Physics (IoP), raising the question of whether there is an equivalent in the US or elsewhere.
  • Another participant suggests that the reputation of the institution where one earns a PhD may serve as a de facto measure of program quality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is no formal accreditation for physics and astronomy programs in the US, but there is some uncertainty regarding the existence of equivalent systems in other countries.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the lack of a clear professional pathway for physicists compared to other fields, which may influence the accreditation landscape. There are also references to differing accreditation practices in other countries, specifically the UK.

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My background is EE where (in the US) the gold standard is ABET accreditation. Is there an analogous accreditation for physics/astronomy programs (something beyond regional accreditation of the University)?
 
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I don't think there's any accreditation for physics or astronomy programs in the US. Chemistry has optional ACS accreditation, but physics doesn't have anything through the APS. Physics is part of any ABET accreditation, but only to the basic level (calculus based intro classes, mostly).
 
That is correct, there is no formal accreditation program for physics degree programs in the US, like there is for chemistry.

I guess this is because there is no clear professional path for "physicists" who have only a bachelor's degree, unlike engineers and chemists.
 
I think in the UK Physics undergrad programmes are accredited by the IoP - the Institute of Physics. Not sure if there is anything equivalent in the US or elsewhere.
 
I'm sure people just look at where you got your PhD to make sure you went to a decent place.
 

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