Who are the people who study physics and maths?

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The discussion revolves around the types of individuals who pursue studies in mathematics and physics, particularly focusing on the accessibility of these fields for those who may have struggled with the subjects in high school or college. It touches on personal experiences, educational pathways, and the challenges faced by students in these disciplines.

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  • One participant questions whether average individuals can succeed in math and physics, expressing concern about their own abilities despite achieving good grades with effort.
  • Another participant asserts that hard work is essential and that creativity can be developed through practice, suggesting that innate talent is not the only factor in success.
  • A suggestion is made about the benefits of having diverse study partners to enhance learning, emphasizing the importance of collaboration and inspiration from peers.
  • One participant notes that many students, regardless of their prior performance, feel overwhelmed by the challenges of physics in their early studies, indicating that this experience is common.
  • There is a perspective that being average may be sufficient for pursuing a master's in physics, but acknowledges that it will be a difficult journey.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of high school education potentially impacting students' preparedness for advanced studies in physics and math.

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Participants express differing views on the accessibility of math and physics for average students. While some believe that hard work can lead to success, others highlight the challenges and overwhelming nature of the subjects, suggesting that there is no consensus on the ease of entry into these fields.

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Participants reference personal experiences and anecdotal evidence, which may not universally apply. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on educational backgrounds and the influence of teaching quality on student outcomes.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals considering a career in mathematics or physics, students currently studying these subjects, and educators seeking to understand the challenges faced by learners in these fields.

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I often wonder about what type of people study math and physics. I am currently in a Maritime school, studying to be machine chief. It's sort of difficult to explain the education. We have Maths on A level, physics on B, chemistry C and a bunch of electrical courses, which is the hardest of them all.

I am thinking about taking a second education, undergrad or masters in Physics or Maths. But, my question is; Is the education achievable for the ones who struggled with physics in high school and college, or is just for the people who laugh at college level math? What I am basically asking is, do average people stand a chance in the fields of math and physics?

I don't know If I'm average or good. I get good grades in physics and math, but I also put some (sometimes a lot) effort into it.

EDIT: I think this belongs under academic guidance.
 
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What I am basically asking is, do average people stand a chance in the fields of math and physics?
Yes, as long as you work at it.
I don't know If I'm average or good. I get good grades in physics and math, but I also put some (sometimes a lot) effort into it
And hard work is no impediment to creativity, but the means by which you hone your skills for being creative.

Some have been given a sharper knife from nature's side, they still have to sharpen it, and keep it sharp in order to be able to compete.
 
Sure I read somewhere that a person would do well to have three kinds of study partners. One smarter, one not as smart or knowledgeable, and one who is on the same level. From the same source I think, like arildno said, when you rub two knives together they become sharper.
From personal experience I would add that a muse or someone whom you greatly admire near you to attempt to impress makes a huge difference. Creativity and productivity will crash through the roof.
 
The tough truth: Pretty much everyone is overwhelmed by physics in the first years. This includes the people who were good at it in school.

Being average when you look at the whole of the population pretty much the minimum requirement for a masters in physics. I guess it can be done, but it will be tough.

On the other hand you might be above average but your high school teachers sucked...
 

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